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Bloemen op zolder
Bloemen op zolder: roman | Virginia C. Andrews
Vier kinderen zijn door hun moeder opgesloten in een kamer om hun bestaan geheim te houden. Pas na twee jaar weten ze te ontsnappen.
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TheBookgeekFrau
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Awesome find at the library book sale tonight!!

If I can't have the hardcover edition my mother got rid of (I will never not be mad about that), I'm happy to settle for a first Pocket Books printing from November 1979 for only $0.60 😁 Couldn't believe a room full of booksellers scooping up everything in sight passed this by 🤣

dabbe #sheerawesomeness 🤩🤩🤩 1mo
TheBookgeekFrau @dabbe Right?!!!!! 💃🏻💃🏻 1mo
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snapsnarlgrowl

At least I can say I‘ve read it?

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wildwoodreads
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Guys, what did I just read??? This book frustrated me endlessly because it had a ton of plot holes. It made me super uncomfortable and the ending was a little anticlimactic. But yet I couldn‘t put it down. It caught my attention and made me want to read again. After a four month book slump I‘m grateful for that.

ChaoticMissAdventures Imagine if you will it is 1990 and I am a new teen and my cousins give this to me because new teen GenXers needed trauma to form us 😂. 4mo
wildwoodreads @ChaoticMissAdventures Oooofff I‘m sure that was an experience 😂😂😂 I‘m mildly traumatized and I‘m grown. 😂 4mo
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dabbe My first really scare read as a middle schooler in 1979. 😱 (edited) 4mo
bookaholic1 This series was #1 back in my day...I still could open each book of the series and enjoy.... 4mo
wildwoodreads @bookaholic1 It is enjoyable for sure! 4mo
wildwoodreads @dabbe I imagine it was scary for a middle schooler! 4mo
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InkedBookworm13
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#StorySettings Day7 Attic
I've been trying to get through this book for years. It sits on my nightstand and every few months I try again.

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I read this when I was a teenager! Time for a reread! 7mo
dabbe That was one creepy book. 😱 7mo
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Kshakal
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Eggs Perfect 🤩 7mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Perfect 😱 7mo
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Kappadeemom
Flowers in the Attic | V.C. Andrews
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1. Church and then beach if it‘s nice weather
2. Weird book - Birds Aren‘t Real
3. Tagged book, I loved the series ❤️
@Cupcake #MotivationalMonday

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currentlyreadinginCO
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Guys I got this book vase off of Amazon and I really love it 😊😊. I am a huge fan of fresh flowers, but I keep about 50 indoor plants and so I do not like to overdo it with the cuttings. This little vase just makes my day.

RowReads1 Cool! I was just considering getting a vase similar to that w a different title. 13mo
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DebinHawaii
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Mehso-so

I picked this for my June #TitlesAndTunes #GuiltyPleasure because I hadn‘t read it in decades & it was such a rite of passage for 14-year-old me & young girls everywhere. (I did catch both movies along the way though). While glad I reread it, it did make me both cringe & laugh at just how overwrought & clunky the writing is from an adult perspective,not to mention all of the triggers & the just overall “ick” factor. 🤦🏻‍♀️
My song pick ⬇️

DebinHawaii …Kiss‘s “I Was Made For Loving You” & the whole #GuiltyPleasure playlist created by our hosts @BarbaraBB & @Cinfhen is aces! Check out a link on their posts. Already planning for July—I have my book, just need to choose my song. 1y
BarbaraBB I loved these books! 1y
Staci I love these books! I plan to finish the ser 1y
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TheBookHippie OHMYGOODNESS !! 😂😅 oh the memories!!! Bahahaha 1y
Cinfhen I was OBSESSED with these books!!! But I can only imagine now, as an adult, how truly cringy it all must be!!! 1y
TrishB Oh I loved these at 14. I feel no need to go back and ruin the memory! 1y
TheLudicReader The movies are as bad as the books, but I don't care. Pure cheesy goodness. 1y
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DebinHawaii
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I went round & round with my #TitlesandTunes #GuiltyPleasure pick for June, but ended up with a reread decades in the making of this one. This was the book to read in 1979 & I was on the edge of 14 & passing it around with my friends.

When I went to a list of the top songs of 1979, the Kiss classic “I Was Made for Loving You” stood out as a good (& okay maybe a bit creepy when you relate the words to the book) match! 😱😆

TrishB 😂😂 great match! 1y
Cinfhen Ohhhhh! I was OBSESSED with this series and my hubs LOVES kiss! He proudly has his Kiss Army membership card 😂😂 1y
BarbaraBB The boys in my class always dressed up like Kiss with tennis rackets as guitars 😂 1y
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LeahBergen This match! 😆 1y
DebinHawaii @Cinfhen @BarbaraBB My friends husband is a proud Kiss Army member too! And there was always at least one Kiss entry in the school talent shows & dress up days! 🤣 1y
DebinHawaii @TrishB @LeahBergen It was a close race between Kiss & Sister Sledge, We Are Family! 🤣🤣🤣 1y
BarbaraBB Also I loved this series back in the days ❤️ ❤️ (edited) 1y
Rissreads I‘ve dressed up as KISS! Such fun! And everyone was reading this book when we were way to young for it! 🤣 (edited) 1y
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ahoffkosik
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We have bestselling author Carley Fortune (!!!) on my book podcast today! Carley requested that we discuss FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC on her episode, and since the polarizing 1979 novel has also been oft-requested by listeners, I was thrilled to oblige. Listen at the link in my bio!

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currentlyreadinginCO
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I read an article about V.C. Andrews last week and it inspired this thriftbooks haul. I discovered this series at a garage sale when I was a preteen and read EVERYTHING by V.C. Andrews 😂. My parents weren't readers & so they had no idea what I was up to haha. I guess that I wanted to reread them to see if they stand up to the fascinating and twisted gothic horror of my memory.

BookwormM I read these as a teenager I was with my mum at a book sale as an adult and the old lady in front of us turned her nose up saying these are all full of incest and sex . Mum asked is that true and the only honest response was yes. 🤣🤣 have been meaning to revisit as an adult but haven‘t yet. 2y
currentlyreadinginCO So funny that so many people had a YA flowers in the attic experience 🤣 @BookwormM 2y
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jlhammar
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🎃 I made the mistake of watching the movie adaptation of tagged at a sleepover when I was 10 (in 1989) and had nightmares for many nights following
🎃 A recent favorite would be The Change by Kirsten Miller
🎃 Dark green, navy blue

@Eggs thanks for the tag!
#WondrousWednesday

TheDaysGoBy Ugh, Flowers in the Attic made me irrationally angry when I read it several years back 😂 I can see how traumatizing that would be to read as a kid 2y
Eggs Thanks for joining in 🎃😱🧡 2y
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Cazxxx
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Pickpick

September finishes
The midwich cuckoos- 3.5/5. Really enjoyed this weird story, Fry is a great narrator
The storyteller 4/5. Loved this memoir, Grohl came across as very humble and kind
The asylum 3/5. A gothic mystery about a woman mysteriously waking up in an asylum
Mrs England 4/5. Loved this atmospheric gothic mystery where a nanny works for a strange family
Flowers in the attic 3.5/5. Enjoyed this haunting novel very much
Cont 👇🏼

Cazxxx Guns, germs and steel 4/5. Excellent, I learned so much and would like a hard copy to highlight! 2y
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Kappadeemom
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For the #alphabetgame today, I am picking this one because it was a book that gave me a love for reading at a young age. I tore through these books as they were published and couldn‘t wait to go to the library and check them out. #LetterF @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Me too!! 🖤🖤 2y
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SamHeartCoffee
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My next read. I am sooooo excited!

TheLudicReader This is a book, which I read many (many) years ago, which has stuck with me. Have fun. 2y
JaneyWaneyB Enjoy. This book is brilliant and leaves a haunting mark on every reader 2y
paper.reveries This was INTENSE! Did you enjoy it? 2y
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Catgirl1224
Pickpick

I have to say, I went in not knowing anything about what this book held. I was only told bits and pieces here and there. But finally after 28 years of hearing about it I found it one lovely day at Barnes & Noble. I was hooked, the story is deep and really paints a picture of loss, grieving, betrayal, abandonment. I would recommend it if you have always wanted to read it. But be warned. You will have a blizzard of emotions going through.

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Pickpick

I‘m shook. I was expecting a vintage domestic thriller and got a very disturbing coming-of-age slow burner that I won‘t be quick to forget. Damn… that was dark.

What I can appreciate from this book is this: the very real issues of the teenage world of yesteryear are just as relevant today. A psychological caging of your hormonally-charged mind, where all of your childhood nightmares are on steroids.

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I read this many years ago and felt the same way… awesome photo 📷 3y
paper.reveries @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Glad to know I‘m not alone!! Do you think you‘ll reread it? 3y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @daisyheadmaesie probably not. I have sooo many to read! I read most of hers when I was younger! You are definitely not alone! I was so creeped out! Have you seen the adaptation? 3y
paper.reveries @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks that‘s totally fair. I know that feeling! 😂😂 I haven‘t seen the adaptation! I actually had no idea this author existed. I grew up with Goosebumps instead of VC Andrews, so it‘s a lovely discovery :) 3y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @daisyheadmaesie I loved these books! I‘m a bit older than you although I think I‘m still 20!! 😂😂😂 3y
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GinaKButler
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Revisiting this during spring break...and wondering if I‘ll tear through it like I did in junior high?

#bookspinbingo

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Ast_Arslan
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 😱📚👍🏻 3y
Eggs Great choice 🏠 3y
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Kshakal
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Eggs Perfect 🤩 3y
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fictionaddictbooks
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I read this one years ago!! So creepy 😱📚 3y
Eggs Perfect 😍 3y
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InkedBookworm13
Flowers in the Attic | V.C. Andrews
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#WondrousWednesday
💖 My boys
💙 Flowers in the Attic. So far pick thought I know it's going to get dark soon
🖤 My husband. He always takes care of us.

@eggs

Eggs Sweet boys 🐶🐶 3y
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SusanLee
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#ithadtobeyou #flowers @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Eggs
This is one book which is in my TBR forever. I have no inclination to read it as yet due to its content, having read from various reviews.

Eggs I read it a loooong time ago. Won‘t read it again… 3y
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Kimberlone
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I definitely can‘t remember the FIRST romance novel I read, but the tagged book was probably the first that was sexually explicit, and of course I read it way younger than would have been appropriate. I‘m sure I‘m not the only one with a similar story on Litsy….😉

Looking forward to #Swoonathon throughout the month of February! @kimmypete1 @MidnightBookGirl

LapReader Me too! 3y
Kristin_Reads Same! 3y
Bookwormjillk Same!! 3y
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kimmypete1 Same! 3y
Lucy_Anywhere Hahaha, way too young! Looking back I can‘t believe it was even in my school library 😂 3y
tokorowilliamwallace I read A Walk to Remember in high school. I wasn't sentimental then but it was one that got to my emotions. The only Nicholas Sparks book I have read. 3y
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poiuyt
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Fate was a grim reaper, never kind, with little respect for who was loved and needed... and grief, no matter on how your try to cater to is wail, has a way of fading away, and the person so real so beloved becomes a dim slightly out of focus shadow.

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Billie84
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Pickpick

Virginia Andrews classic story flowers in the attic follows the Dollangangers. Difficult book to read but in my opinion definitely worth a read. May not be for everyone tho

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Billie84
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Starting this today. I know people say it trashy but I absolutely adore VC Andrews books. I know most are by a ghost writer but I don‘t care I love them all. My mum got my into these so re- reading them in her memory ❤️

LibrarianRyan The Virginia threw me off when I saw the title. I am so use to VC 3y
Billie84 @LibrarianRyan lol I know I find it weird seeing Virginia Andrews instead of VC Andrews 3y
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IndoorDame
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This week‘s suspenseful tv binge has totally made me want to go back and read Flowers in the Attic again. #scarathlon2021 #teamslaughter @Clwojick +41 pts

Clwojick OH boy! I definitely binged 24 episodes of Castle in the last 48 hours 😅 3y
IndoorDame @Clwojick I‘m loving it! And it couldn‘t fit our team theme more perfectly 😆 3y
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MidnightBookGirl
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#LittensDressedInBlood Today's prompt is Tainted Love

I was obsessed with this series at a very young age (and likewise, the Heaven series), and it brought me to other even more gothic tales, although none of those featured such tainted love as the love that existed in the early VC Andrews books. Let us not talk about the pure crap that spewed forth under her name in the decades since her death though- that's pure horror!

IamIamIam I feel like everyone read this as young teens but I haven't met many people, besides my mom 😏, who read them as adults! Lol, I'm dying to go back to it for some trashy fluff!!! 3y
MidnightBookGirl @IamIamIam So I have re-read them off and on throughout my adulthood- but only the first few of Flowers and Heaven and My Sweet Audrina. I was kind of obsessed with Petals on the Wind and Dark Angel throughout my later teen years and they were both comfort reads, but it's been awhile since I re-read them! 3y
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LesleaWahl I too was obsessed with that series! 3y
Mtnwitch2012 Omg I love all the books written by her, not the ones the shadow writer is creating with her notes that were left behind. 3y
Nessavamusic I read the first couple of these and remembering being obsessed, but I didn‘t stick with it as the later were so bad. 3y
Reggie So I have not read any of VC Andrews but I was listening to a horror podcast and was interested to hear that one of the shocking authors they were talking about writes the new stuff under Andrew‘s name. Cause his own stuff is extreme they said. Which made me wonder if he toned it down writing as Andrews. 3y
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ShawnYLibros
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Reading 4 books right now cuz nothing is holding my attention for very long

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bibliobliss
Flowers in the Attic | V C Andrews

Cory was entirely different. While Carrie chattered on and on, he‘d sit and listen attentively. I recall Mrs. Simpson saying Cory was “a still water that ran deep.” I still don‘t know what she meant by that, except quiet people did exude some illusion of mystery that kept you wondering just what they really were beneath the surface.

#currentlyreading #bookblurbs #fiction #novels

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SusanLee
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Eggs 👏🏻😳👍🏼 3y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Great choice!! 3y
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Megabooks
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Bailedbailed

This has been on my TBR forever, but I must say that I‘m not a fan. It reads like smutty MG, not even mature enough to be YA. Next!

Also Mena Suvari doesn‘t do the #audiobook any favors. 🙄👎🏻

MrsMalaprop I read these in my early teens & loved them. Even then I knew they were trashily written. 😂 3y
Cinfhen Agreed @MrsMalaprop Definitely my first exposure to smut 😛 3y
Megabooks @MrsMalaprop @Cinfhen definitely not as good at 41!! 😂😂 3y
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Cinfhen Yeah, I can totally see how this might not stand up to the test of time 3y
Cinfhen Nice for trying!!! 3y
Kimberlone I feel like if you didn‘t read this at age 12-13 it doesn‘t really hit the same way. Don‘t think I could read it as an adult at all. 3y
Hooked_on_books I really liked this, but pretty sure I read it as a teenager. I think I‘d have the reaction you‘re having if I tried to read it now! 3y
TrishB I was about to say you have to read at age 13! 3y
DrexEdit I agree. It's more a rite of passage kind of read than a classic bit of writing. 3y
TheDaysGoBy I read this in my 20s I think (in my 30s now) and I got so angry reading this book. It was my mom‘s rec because she‘d read it as a teen and afterwards I was like “What did you make me read?” 😂 3y
Megabooks @Kimberlone @Hooked_on_books @TrishB @DrexEdit @TheDaysGoBy yeah, I think I definitely missed out on enjoying this by not reading it in middle school! It isn‘t a book that stands up to adult scrutiny. 😂 3y
fredamans The problem is audio. Print is a wonderful thing. Gaining your own interpretations and visions are a wonderful thing. 3y
sarahbarnes Oh man, I read this in middle school. I know it totally creeped me out then, but I can imagine it would be very different to read it as an adult. 3y
Megabooks @fredamans possibly. Mena‘a narration certainly didn‘t help! 3y
Megabooks @sarahbarnes I think that‘s it. I don‘t think I‘m the right audience. 3y
bthegood I loved it as a teen, loved the movie...now I would not let anyone read it, it attempts to make incest romantic. 3y
Megabooks @bthegood I know. It‘s not sexy or romantic or a particularly good message for pre-teens! (edited) 3y
TheLudicReader Haha. I love your review. I read this back in the day and loved it. I blame it for all my reading kinks. 😂 3y
Megabooks @TheLudicReader lololol!! Yeah, it slipped under my radar as a middle school reader…my mom probably made sure of it, knowing her! 😂😂 3y
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OriginalCyn620
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This was a reread for me - I read it a few times as a preteen, and I loved it just as much this time around. Which is kinda weird to say considering the subject matter, so I guess what I really mean is that I think it‘s a good book!

#doublespin #bookspinbingo

#pop21 - book by an author who shares your zodiac sign

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 3y
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Skygoddess1
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And with the completion of the tagged book, my February #BookSpinBingo is at an end. This month I managed one bingo and to read my #DoubleSpin read. My #BookSpin book, Hour of the Witch, along with The Five will carry over into March as I‘m currently reading them.

TheAromaofBooks Yay!!! Fabulous month!! 4y
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Bookgoil
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Working on these books and maybe a few more for #20in4 hosted by @Andrew65

Come join the fun starting tomorrow.

Andrew65 Some good choices 😊👍 4y
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keepingupwiththepenguins
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Flowers In The Attic is a strange hybrid: a barely-comprehensible poorly-written story full of holes that still managed to disturb and horrify me. At first, I was frustrated by the mistreatment of the children, but all too soon I was frustrated by the children themselves, and the whole ludicrous set-up. Full review here: https://keepingupwiththepenguins.com/flowers-in-the-attic-vc-andrews/

MySharonaK Loved your review!❤️ I never understood how it became such a sensation and I wonder if it‘s only due to the fact that it was “forbidden”. I hated all the characters and the pointless story tbh. 4y
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Staci
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Pickpick

This book made me think, "What in the World?!?!" Great read...

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OriginalCyn620
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#7Days7Books - 7 books that have left a deep impression or changed me - Day 2

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la_rose_noire
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Day 6
#7days7books
Seven books that left a deep impression on me and changed me. #covercrush #vcandrews

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Drnkpnkprincess
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Living in the desert means I have blooms like these in my yard! #bloominglitsy 🌵

Nute I think those are pretty! 5y
BellaSingsSongs I‘m in the desert for the first time since December 2019.. Spring is beautiful! 🌵🌸 5y
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OutsmartYourShelf
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#7days7books

Seven books which made a deep impression on me.

Day 2 - Flowers in the Attic. I first read this around the age of 14 & I remember being absolutely scandalised and yet unable to stop reading it. I HAD to know what happened to Chris and Cathy.

Tagging - anyone who wants to join in the 7 days/books challenge.

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Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick
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I saw this on Instagram and it gave me a good chuckle. #LitsyHumor

batsy 😬😆 5y
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WorldsOkayestStepMom
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This is between a pick and a so-so for me. I wasn't for sure I knew the plot until the very end, but it was one of my top theories leading up to the big reveal.

WorldsOkayestStepMom @erinachu, are you in the United States? If you are, I'd be happy to pass along my copy of this book! My bookshelves are super full right now and I can't hang on to all of them. 5y
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JacqMac
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Sorry. I couldn‘t help myself. Lol
A friend sent this to me. I loved these books so much when I was a teenager.

Leftcoastzen 😂👏 5y
JaclynW 🤣🤣🤣 5y
RaimeyGallant Oh my god I read the shit out of this series. 5y
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JB_Reads 🤣🤣 5y
Crazeedi I remember reading these 5y
JacqMac @RaimeyGallant @Crazeedi My friends and I passed them around like they were little treasures. lol 5y
LeahBergen 😂😂 5y
RaimeyGallant I did that with my cousin. 5y
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skye071803
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Pickpick

horrendous, but really good. bracing. great Gothic story.

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sophierayton
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Oh My Goodness!

This book is infamous and I was hesitant to pick it up because of all I knew about it, but Oh My Goodness!
I thought this an interesting look at abuse, trust, hope, despair, mental illness, blurred lines, survival, evil and the corrupting power of money and religion.

I have nothing but compassion for the Dollanganger children, they were put in an impossible situation and did their best.

bookaholic1 This is such a great series 5y
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Eggs
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I read this a long time ago: Chris, Cathy, and the twins are to be kept hidden until their grandfather dies so that their mother will receive a sizeable inheritance; however, years pass and terrifying things occur as the four children grow up in their one room prison.

#flowers
#reallyrandomfebruary
@Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks
@OriginalCyn620

OriginalCyn620 Love this book! 5y
Jerdencon Loved this book as a kid - think I read it when I was about 10 or 11 - totally inappropriate lol but I thought it was so good! 5y
Eggs Thanks for commenting-this may have been the author‘s debut 🤷‍♀️ @OriginalCyn620 @Jerdencon 5y
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JaneyWaneyB My friend gave me this book when I was in a reading slump and insomina phase at university....I devoured the series. It was so wonderfully twisted that I couldn't put it down 5y
Eggs @JaneyWaneyB Books are truly magic 🌟 5y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Really creepy 😱😱 5y
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BrieHive
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Incest is wincest amiright. JUST KIDDING IT IS NOT. This book is INSANE and crazy af. Though it‘s so good and I could not put it down. The premise is the father dies so the mom moves her and her four kids in with their grandparents. The kids are forced to live in the attic and neglected. There‘s so much to unpack all I can say is read it.

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Nomi_Schiano555
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I saw the movie before I read the book, the latter was better