SciFiFantasyBookClub

Book Club: An Unshelved Collection | Bill Barnes

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The voting for the science fiction pick for March and April is live! The deadline is on Feb 2nd!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9VJCSG7

I tried to include CW/TW where I could find them if that is something you need.

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InLibrisVeritas @4thhouseontheleft @ABooksyGirl @ahackett @amyg @AnansiGirl @Angeles @Ashley_Nicoletto @BarbaraTheBibliophage @BethM @Bturner588 @Bookgirl @bookwormAHN @bookandcat @Captain22 @caroline2 @CBee @cewilf @cherinium @Chrissyreadit @cobwebmoth @CoffeeK8 @coffeewithbooks @daena @DannyHattan @debiw781 @DuckOfDoom @eanderson @eri.reads @erhibiscus @Eyelit @Fantasyfan @Gezemice @grrlbrarian @HufflepuffGirl90 @InBooksILive 4y

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BookwormAHN Voted ✔ 4y

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InLibrisVeritas @swatreads @thearcherisagirl @thereadingunicorn @TheRomantiCate @TheSpineView @TK421 @tonyahoswalt @Tracyantoon @wanderinglynn @wordslinger42 4y

Tracyantoon Voted! 4y

Laughterhp Voted! 4y

Read-y_Picker Voted! But you made it a tough choice 😓 4y

MeganAnn Voted! 4y

InLibrisVeritas @Read-y_Picker I know, I'm sorry! 😂 The random draw was not kind today 4y

wordslinger42 Voted!! 4y

TheSpineView Voted!! 😁 4y

CBee Count me out for now, thank you 😊 4y

Schnoebs Think I‘m going to pass on this one. Nothing really caught my attention 4y

Caroline2 Voted ✅ 4y

bookandcat Voted! 4y

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GingerAntics

The Mists of Avalon | Marion Zimmer Bradley

Aaaaand here‘s the incest. Just remember, this was a 15 or 16 year old girl coerced and tricked into having sex with her YOUNGER (11-13 year old) brother. Funny how that words out. That was Bradley‘s husband‘s preferred age range for “lovers” and about the time Bradley stopped molesting her daughter. Disgusting.
#MarionZimmerBradley #TheMistsOfAvalon #SciFiFantasyBookClub #BBBBC

Texreader, julesG, Bookwomble

TrishB I loved this book until I found out about the author and her husband 😡 4y

GingerAntics @TrishB these two were truly twisted human beings. I am utterly disgusted. 4y

TrishB I know people can separate the art from the person, but I can‘t with this. 4y

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GingerAntics @TrishB that was literally in my comments/review. I‘m open minded about separating the creation from the creator, but that ends at abuse of any kind for me, especially abuse of children. This is just deplorable. 4y

Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I can overlook a few dumb comments or dissenting opinion but not molestation. Gross. 4y

GingerAntics @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick right? There is just a limit here and Bradley blew right past that limit. 4y

Caroline2 @TrishB I wish I had known about the author before I started reading. 😢 It is all deeply disturbing!!!! 4y

TrishB @Caroline2 I nearly said something but I didn‘t know how to and don‘t like telling people what they should or shouldn‘t be reading. I‘d already read it when I found out. 😞 4y

Caroline2 @TrishB It‘s so difficult isn‘t it. But so awful. 4y

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GingerAntics

The Mists of Avalon | Marion Zimmer Bradley

Here it is, clear as day, in Bradley‘s own words. To think that this woman thought that a child opening her legs to a grown man is an “irresponsible force of nature.” Yeah, kids wrap their legs around adults when they‘re being carried or given a piggy back ride, but that‘s not naked and it‘s certainly not sex. This is.
#MarionZimmerBradley #TheMistsOfAvalon #SciFiFantasyBookClub #BBBBC

Texreader, julesG, Bookwomble

Texreader I read your links in the previous post. Tragic. So many people hurt so badly. 😭 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader it really is. For it to be open knowledge in their relationship for DECADES and the response is to move him to his own apartment?! So much that just blows the mind in this situation. 🤯 I feel better knowing. I think reading Moira‘s poetry really helped me, honestly. I would buy a book of that and support the ever loving 🤬 out of her. 4y

Caroline2 I am so embarrassed to admit that this scene didn‘t register with me?! I don‘t even remember this scene so I can only assume I skim read that part!! I am so angry with myself that I didn‘t pick up on this!!! 4y

GingerAntics @Caroline2 in all the things I read online, it seems this part slipped past a lot of people. I think it might have been the intent. The little girl is painted head to toe in blue, the MC is also painted in blue. The main story is not about this little girl. It‘s just slipped in. 4y

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GingerAntics

The Mists of Avalon | Marion Zimmer Bradley

I know too much about the Celtic old ways to not roll my eyes at the obvious, complete lack of understanding of those ways by Bradley.

I currently plan to finish this book, just to say that I did, but time will tell. This is a really long book for all of this cluelessness.
#MarionZimmerBradley #TheMistsOfAvalon #SciFiFantasyBookClub #BBBBC

julesG I read it before I turned 20. So long before I knew anything about the Celts. I think this was for the better. 😂😂 4y

GingerAntics @julesG it‘s so utterly wrong and so utterly boring. I want to be able to say I‘ve read it, but this is a bloody door stop. 4y

Bookwomble I had 'Mists of Avalon" TBR for a long time, but chucked it in the recycling bin when I found out Bradley sexually abused her children. Separation of creator from creation is something to consider, but for me not possible in this case. 4y

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GingerAntics @Bookwomble I‘m currently at the section that she wrote peodophilea into the book. I‘m currently reading her daughter‘s heart wrenching accounts and trying to calm down enough that my comments are not completely expletive riddled. I can‘t separate creator from creation in this case either, especially because she didn‘t. It‘s right there in black and white for her to see. 4y

Texreader Holy moly that‘s a chunkster!!! 4y

Texreader @Bookwomble Say what??? 😡 I agree; that‘s hard to separate from the creation. 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader it really is a chunkster. Yeah, there is a scene where a 14 or 15 year old girl is forced to have sex with an “old man” (her description) and is coerced into doing it. She doesn‘t want to, but they tell her she has to in order to save Avalon. Such rubbish. She sexually abused both her children and other girls and boys. 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader She apparently tied her daughter to a chair and attacked her with a pair of pliers, threatening to pull out all of her teeth. She apparently held her head under water because she didn‘t want to be her mother‘s lover. Her father sexually abused 22 boys Moira knew about and named to the cops. Bradley said in court she felt the kids were old enough to make their own decisions. They were like 10-12. 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader When Bradley‘s son was 15 she finally thought to ask him if his father ever tried to have sex with him (she knew about his peodophilea before they were married) and the son said “I‘m too old for him now.” 🤬🤦🏼‍♀️🥃 The whole thing is EPHED UP!!! 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader this is the link to the original blog post that broke the story, including emails and two poems directly from Moira Greyland. https://deirdre.net/2014/06/10/marion-zimmer-bradley-its-worse-than-i-knew/ 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader I read excerpts from her testimony at her own husband‘s trial for sex with a minor, and seriously this woman is TWISTED!!! Here is a link to her deposition (I read the excerpt version) and the deposition of her lover and the person now benefiting from Bradley‘s estate (I didn‘t read that one). These people are disgusting. “Children don‘t have erogenous zones” was possibly the most insane thing I ever heard. 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader http://www.marionzimmerbradley.com or this one just to jump to the excepts https://deirdre.net/marion-zimmer-bradley-excerpted-testimony/ this takes a strong stomach, honestly. (edited) 4y

GingerAntics @Texreader can you guess what I‘ve been reading all day? I feel like I should get some page count credit for this or something. 4y

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Caroline2

The Mists of Avalon | Marion Zimmer Bradley

#weeklyforecast
Even tho I‘m only up to page 266 and it‘ll prob take all month to read, I‘m really enjoying Mists. It‘s so immersive, with the perfect blend of fantasy and history and beautiful writing. #bbbbc #scififantasybookclub
Hoping to finish Piranesi this week but with so much homeschooling to do I‘m getting very little time to read. 🙄 #buddyread

rockpools, Oryx, scripturient, TrishB, julesG, squirrelbrain

julesG Homeschooling 🥴🙄 not looking forward to tomorrow - have to juggle two kids; and the cleaning lady, who can only visit between 8 and 10am. 🙄🙄🙄 Fingers crossed for smooth sailing. 🤞 4y

rockpools @caroline2 @julesG Good luck, both of you! I think I need to stop stacking books - I‘m looking at Mists of Avalon now, thinking ‘that sounds great!‘ 4y

Caroline2 @rockpools It‘s so good. One of those big, dense books that you just want to go to bed with tea and snacks and read all day. 😆 4y

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Crazeedi Mists is one of my top 10 all time favorites. Read it many years ago. It is one of the best for arthurian stories. I never reread, but I may have to break that tradition 4y

squirrelbrain There‘s no rush on Piranesi - there‘s another few weeks before our Zoom. Good luck with the homeschooling! 4y

Caroline2 @Crazeedi It‘s so good isn‘t it. I‘m really enjoyed it. I don‘t reread either but this is such a rich, deep story I think it would hold up to being reread. 👍 4y

Clare-Dragonfly Mists is one of my favorite books. 🥰🌕🌑 4y

Deblovestoread Mists has been on my shelf forever. I really need to read it one of these days. 4y

Crazeedi @Kdgordon88 oh my, you DEFINITELY need to read! It is a magnificent book 4y

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InLibrisVeritas

The Mists of Avalon | Marion Zimmer Bradley

#BBBBC

It's time for the first read of 2021! We will be reading The Mists of Avalon in Jan and Feb!

Please let me know if you want to join or if you plan to skip this one so I can add you to the notification list for this read.

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InLibrisVeritas @4thhouseontheleft @ABooksyGirl @ahackett @amyg @Angeles @Ashley_Nicoletto @BarbaraTheBibliophage @BethM @BrittanyReads @Bturner588 @Bookgirl @bookwormAHN @bookandcat @Captain22 @caroline2 @CBee @cewilf @cherinium @Chrissyreadit @cobwebmoth @CoffeeK8 @coffeewithbooks @daena @DannyHattan @debiw781 @DuckOfDoom @eanderson @eri.reads @erhibiscus @Eyelit @Fantasyfan @Gezemice @grrlbrarian @HufflepuffGirl90 @InBooksILive 4y

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InLibrisVeritas @thearcherisagirl @thereadingunicorn @TheRomantiCate @TheSpineView @TK421 @tonyahoswalt @Tracyantoon @wanderinglynn 4y

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Schnoebs Definitely interested in picking this one up 👍 4y

SherylRC Definitely excited about this read 😊 Have already started. 4y

IndoorDame I‘m interested in joining this one 😊 4y

BookwormAHN I'm planning a rereading 😺 4y

SconsinBookyBadger Could you tag me in the BBBBC? I‘ve been wanting to join for several months, just kept forgetting to ask. 😊 (edited) 4y

Tracyantoon I am skipping this one. But hoping to be back for the March book!! 4y

MeganAnn This has been on my shelf for years! Happy to finally have a reason forcing me to pick it up. I‘m still working on finishing A Memory Called Empire.... hopefully I can finish it soon and get started on this one since it‘s such a chunkster! 4y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m planning on reading this one, I have it in paperback waiting. 4y

GingerAntics I already started this one. 4y

Nute I love this book. I hope that I know where my copy is so that I can join in.👍🏽 4y

InLibrisVeritas @AnansiGirl Absolutely! 4y

InLibrisVeritas @Tracyantoon No problem! I will take you off the notifcation list for Mists 💜 4y

Caroline2 I‘ve started and loving it so far! 😯 ❤️ 4y

Angeles Hi, I will pass on this one 4y

Gezemice I am reading this one, it has been on my list for a long time! 4y

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GingerAntics

The Mists of Avalon | Marion Zimmer Bradley

I‘ve done the math. If I read 17 pages a day, I‘ll be done by 25 February, in just enough time for the discussion.
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Caroline2 Oh I just started this last night too. 😀 4y

GingerAntics @Caroline2 this has been on my iPad for ages. I‘ve always put it off because of the length, but when others were reading it in January and February, it seemed the perfect time to finally read it. How are you liking it so far? 4y

Caroline2 Yes! I‘ve had it on my shelf for a couple of years now and the size is very intimidating! I love your 27pages a day idea tho! 😀 good thinking! I‘m really liking it although I‘m already struggling trying to remember who is who! 🙄 4y

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GingerAntics @Caroline2 yeah, 17 pages a day seems far more manageable than looking at the whole book. There are A LOT of women so far. I‘m glad I‘m not the only one struggling to keep track, especially when some of the women have very similar names. 4y

GingerAntics @Caroline2 I just read the first chapter and I‘m already ahead of the daily 17 pages, so I‘m feeling far more confident about this now. 4y

Caroline2 😆 that‘s good! 👍 4y

JazzFeathers This was once one of my favourite books. Been ages since last l read it. 4y

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InLibrisVeritas

A Memory Called Empire | Arkady Martine

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The final set of questions are up!

Please feel free to answer here or on your own posts using the tag #BBBBC! Also feel free to ask your own questions!

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MeganAnn 4) I can‘t think of any specific quotes or scenes, this is one of those books where the characters will stick with me for a long time. 5) I liked seeing the perspectives of both Mahit and Yskander and how they were similar in some things and different in others. I found myself ready to dislike Yskander through the first half of the book, but by the end I had changed my mind and realized he was trying his best to save Lsel. 4y

MeganAnn 6) I‘ll definitely read the second book. Hoping to see Mahit and Three Seagrass back together again and hopefully exploring their relationship and attraction to one another. I waited the whole book for them to finally get together! I‘m also curious about where the empire with go from here and what those other aliens will end up being like. 4y

InLibrisVeritas @MeganAnn I am really excited to see where Three Seagrass and Mahit end up, especially given all they have been through together and with their end book life changes. Their relationship was so sweet and had just the right amount of longing. 4y

InLibrisVeritas 4) I have a few quotes that stuck out especially in terms of the colonialism mindset and prejudice: “She was getting used to the combination: that doubling, the strangeness of being grateful for something she should never have had to experience in the first place. Teixcalaan was full of it.” 4y

InLibrisVeritas 4 cont) “It‘s not—devour would be if we were xenophobes or genocides, if we didn‘t bring new territories into the Empire.” - This whole conversation was fantastic. 4y

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InLibrisVeritas

A Memory Called Empire | Arkady Martine

Hey guys! Just wanted to do a quick update just in case the dicussion came a bit late! #BBBBC #scififantasybookclub

My brother is doing alright and has had a mild case so far. He is getting tested again soon as it seems he is on the other side.

Gezemice I am sorry to hear that! All the best to you and your brother! 4y

CoffeeK8 I‘m so sorry to hear about this, I hope everything gets sorted out soon. Do what is best for you! 4y

InLibrisVeritas @Gezemice Thank you ❤️ 4y

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InLibrisVeritas @CoffeeK8 Me too! I managed to get it done in time and ended up being the mental break I needed. ❤️ 4y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I hope your brother is doing better! Sorry I‘m a few days behind here. 4y

InLibrisVeritas @Riveted_Reader_Melissa From the messages it seems he is! He plans to get tested again on Monday. 4y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @InLibrisVeritas I‘m so glad he is! This thing can be very random on who gets better fast and who doesn‘t. 🤞 he continues on a great trajectory to kicking it. 4y

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