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Lolly Willowes
Lolly Willowes | Random House
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BarbaraJean
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This has been on my Hoopla “Favorites” for years (on my GR TBR since 2016!), and I finally got to it this month! It starts out as the story of a woman who breaks free from the constraints of her family and the expectations of society, setting up house for herself in the countryside. The majority of the book is funny and ironic—though slow-paced—and then towards the end, there‘s almost a complete genre shift ⤵️

BarbaraJean (Cont‘d) …when Laura discovers a local coven, becomes a witch, and sits down for a little philosophical chat with Satan himself. I didn‘t mind the shift in tone, honestly, and the thinky part at the end is worth the price of admission all by itself—but the slow-paced lead-up is needed to get you there. 5d
BarbaraJean This was my 1926 pick for #192025 @Librarybelle 5d
Librarybelle Hooray! I‘ve wondered about this one. I‘ll have to read it one of these days. 5d
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BarbaraJean
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“That‘s why we become witches: to show our scorn of pretending life‘s a safe business, to satisfy our passion for adventure.”

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BarbaraJean
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“One doesn‘t become a witch to run round being harmful, or to run round being helpful either, a district visitor on a broomstick. It‘s to escape all that—to have a life of one‘s own, not an existence doled out to you by others, charitable refuse of their thoughts, so many ounces of stale bread of life a day…”

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BarbaraJean
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“Mr. Arbuthnot certainly was not prepared for her response to his statement that February was a dangerous month. ‘It is,‘ answered Laura with almost violent agreement. ‘If you are a werewolf, and very likely you may be, for lots of people are without knowing, February, of all months, is the month when you are most likely to go out on a dark windy night and worry sheep.‘

Henry and Caroline glanced at each other in horror.
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BarbaraJean (Cont‘d) Mr. Arbuthnot said: ‘How very interesting! But I really don't think I am likely to do such a thing.‘ Laura made no answer. She did not think so either. But she was amusing herself with a surprisingly vivid and terrible picture of Mr. Arbuthnot cloaked in a shaggy hide and going with heavy devouring swiftness upon all-fours with a lamb dangling from his mouth.

This settled it. Henry and Caroline made no more attempts to marry off Laura.”
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willaful I read this too young, I think. Must have another go. 5d
BarbaraJean @willaful I really liked it, but it‘s very slow-paced and seems to take a good long while to get where it‘s going. I thought the journey was worth it in the end! 5d
quietjenn One of my favorite scenes from this book! 5d
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In_the_stacks
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Afternoon reads and snacks for #deweys #readathon #deweyoct

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Went for a walk to listen to the Backlisted podcast episode on Lolly Willowes. I‘m hoping to reread it sometime this #readathon weekend. I read it years ago and was loved it, was reminded recently that Lolly Willowes was 47 years old when she went off to seek her independence in the country/ became a witch, and I just turned 47. Thought it was time for a reread! #dewey #deweyreadathon #deweys24hrreadathon #deweyoctober

LitStephanie Beautiful picture. 1w
Tamra I have yet to get to it, but I want to! 1w
In_the_stacks @Tamra I can‘t remember the details of the book, but remember loving it. And the Backlisted episode was a great re-introduction to the book, I‘m excited to revisit it this weekend. 1w
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StaceGhost
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I truly enjoyed 1 & 2 but part 3– still excellent as a metaphor but disappointing as a story.

I‘m still delighted with this book. It‘s likely to be very important to me in terms of literary research.

Still, I‘ll have to figure out why I‘m so reticent to approve the third part.

bibliothecarivs I recently learned about this book and it sounds very interesting. It's on my TBR. 1w
StaceGhost @bibliothecarivs it‘s great! I found it a good read for autumn but part 3 reminds me of the beginning of the master and margarita 1w
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ju.ca.no
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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Note: going bookshopping the day after your paycheck arrives is more expensive than during other times of the month. But I‘m excited for my new books! 💜💜

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Lindy
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My very favourable review of Lolly Willowes is included in this video:

https://youtu.be/BdkdcsC2v6I

#QueerLit #Classics #CanadianAuthors #PrizeLists

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Amie
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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I liked this. It takes an unexpected turn (that I won't spoil), but I liked how it portrayed a woman living life on her own, her way.

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Daisey
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I enjoyed this one, but I was also expecting a bit more. A good portion of the book is taken up with Lolly just being. Then when she does finally break free, she still just seems to exist. I was expecting to see her start making things or doing something other than just escaping to wander the countryside. Yet, I absolutely loved her individualism and the commentary on women‘s lives.

#audiobook #SpinsterLit

AlaMich I enjoyed this as well, although it‘s true that nothing much happens. And the “she becomes a witch” thing was a bit of a letdown to me. 12mo
Daisey @AlaMich Yes, I knew there was something about witches, so when it got there I thought there would be more to it. Instead, it seemed to solve all her problems without really requiring anything of her. 12mo
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AshRob22
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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It‘s heeeeere!!! @BeeMagical I‘m excited, I can‘t wait, I can‘t think of a better way to finish a Monday. Thank you for your Halloween Spirit and energy on this 🎃🎃 #HauntedHollowSwap #HHS23

BeeMagical Eeekk!! I am SO excited for you to open this!!!🖤 12mo
AshRob22 🖤🧡It‘s going to be the 💀LONGEST💀week ever!! 😩😆👻 12mo
wanderinglynn Yay! 🎃👻🧡 12mo
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Amie
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#botm arrived today!

LeeRHarry Wow they‘ve taken on an old classic in Lolly Willowes - that‘s impressive! 13mo
batsy @LeeRHarry I believe Lolly Willowes was the first selection for BOTM back when it began! Which is pretty cool ☺️ 13mo
LeeRHarry @batsy that is pretty cool! ☺️ 13mo
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andrew61
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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A unique story abt a spinster in her late 40's who leaves her london home with her pompous br to move to a small cottage in the chilterns where she emerges from her chrysalis to commune with nature + strange goings on in the community. As she changes her escape is manifested in the relationship with her nephew Titus. In this feminist tale of supernatural deals, there is another more sinister character, portrayed in the frieze on lincoln cathedral

Tamra I have this one TBR - sounds fun! Love the pics! 1y
Lindy @Tamra I‘ve had this on my TBR for a long time too. @andrew61 — excellent review because it makes me want to move it closer to the top of my TBR stack. 😊 1y
Tamra @Lindy we better move it up! I‘m going to look for it at the bookshop today. 1y
Lindy @Tamra 👍 1y
batsy Great review! I love this book 💜 1y
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Daisey Just finished this and this quote is perfect! 12mo
Cazxxx @Daisey How did you find the book? I really enjoyed it 😊 12mo
Daisey @Cazxxx I liked it, but I was a bit disappointed there wasn‘t more that actually happened after she was out on her own. 12mo
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KathyWheeler
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Lolly Willowes is much shorter than The Corner That Held Them, but I liked it. It‘s a story of a woman who never gets married because first she takes care of her father, and when he dies she moves into her brother‘s house and helps take care of his kids. In her late 40s, she gets tired of this and moves alone to the country where things take an interesting turn. I got my walk in before the deluge. 😊 #audiowalk

jlhammar I remember liking this one, too! Might need to do a reread sometime. Definitely interested in trying more STW eventually - maybe this one next 2y
KathyWheeler @jlhammar That one looks interesting. I might try that one later too. 2y
batsy I adore Lolly Willowes 😁 Such a witchily feminist book. 2y
Reggie What a gorgeous route. 2y
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KathyWheeler
Lolly Willowes; or, the Loving Huntsman | Sylvia Townsend 1893- Warner
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I really liked The Corner That Held Them, so I thought I‘d try another Warner book. This has been a quiet story so far as well. It warmed up quite a bit - into the 60s. #audiowalk

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sarahbellum
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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#12booksof2022

October‘s favorite is a toss up between these absolute gems. I loved them both for their strong female leads, sparkling humor, and general badassery. Everyone needs a Lolly and a Miss Pettigrew in their life 👯‍♀️

LeahBergen They are both so good! 2y
Andrew65 Both look good. 2y
batsy I adore Lolly, so I must read Miss Pettigrew! 2y
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Jas16
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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Lolly is a spinster of independent means but is living a life thrust upon her by others rather than the one she truly wants. One day she finally breaks free and moves to the small town of her dreams where she can ramble about outdoors to her hearts‘ content. When her peace is threatened she must either reconcile herself to her lot as Aunt Lolly or find her inner strength. I loved Lolly and everything this book had to say about her role as a woman.

BarbaraBB A great review! I Enjoyed the book too. 2y
LeahBergen Wonderful review. I liked this one! 2y
batsy I love this book and I'm always happy when I see someone else enjoy it 💜 2y
Suet624 Shoot. I have to remember to read this. Great review. 2y
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sarahbellum
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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Well, this witchy feminist book was delightful 🧙🏻‍♀️👹. I‘m really glad I stumbled upon it in my Goodreads TBR a few months ago and remembered it again when considering spooky books for Oct. I‘d be lying if I said I never thought about running off to the countryside to be left alone (perhaps that‘s how I wound up in CA 🤔)

I found another fun crossover between my current reads- both Middlemarch and Lolly mention Milton‘s blindness ⬇️

sarahbellum The two main characters‘ reactions to Milton‘s daughters reading and writing on his behalf truly highlight a major difference between these two women: Dorothea included that reliance on her most-wanted-in-a-husband list and Lolly/Laura literally made a deal with the devil to avoid that kind of dependence 😂 (edited) 2y
BookNAround I‘ve always wished Milton‘s daughters hadn‘t transcribed for their old dad. I loathe the misogynistic old bugger‘s writing. 😂 2y
Sparklemn Great catch on the crossover! 2y
batsy Nice review! I love Lolly Willowes 🖤 2y
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sarahbellum
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Indulging in a short, witchy read from the 1920s 🧙‍♀️

This highlighted response sounds like something Luna Lovegood would say 😂

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monalyisha
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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My book club is starting the lengthy process of putting together our 2023 reading list. It requires Google forms & multiple rounds of voting. 😅 I know you‘ll all appreciate the high degree of nerdiness.

Here are my submissions for the year to come! What do you think? Would *you* be in a book club with me? Have you read any? Would they make for good discussions? Are there any on your TBR? Any you‘d stay away from?

BarbaraBB I‘d be definitely in a book club with you. I love the eclectic choices. True Biz and Lolly Willows I liked and are worth some discussion. I didn‘t like Shuggie Bain but that‘s just me. (edited) 2y
BarbaraBB Oh and I enjoyed The Sentence! 2y
Linsy I love Sharon Blackie!!! I found If Women Rose Rooted was very impactful. 2y
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Dilara The only book I've read in this list is Lolly Willows, which I loved! I can recommend it to readers who are not looking for a fast-paced, action-packed novel (nothing much happens - it's all very observational)! It would definitely make for good discussions. 2y
BookmarkTavern I loved The Conductors! And The Sentence has been on my TBR for months. ❤️ 2y
TrishB I‘ve only read True Biz and enjoyed! 2y
Susanita I would totally be in your book club! 2y
Prairiegirl_reading I was thinking of adding the sentence for my book club too. I haven‘t read any of these yet but they all look interesting to me! 😄 2y
JenReadsAlot True Biz is good! 2y
squirrelbrain I loved the ones I‘ve read (Shuggie, The Sentence and TrueBiz). Can I join your book club?! 😁 2y
Viji The Sentence was excellent! 2y
LeeRHarry There are some good ones there 😊 your bookgroup sounds very much like mine - let the voting begin! 😁 2y
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batsy
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#AlphabetGame @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks
Letter L

It has to be Lolly for me 🖤 #spinsterlit

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Crinoline_Laphroaig
Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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If Mildred from #ExcellentWomenandBoiledPotatoes ran away to the county and became a witch. 😆

Crinoline_Laphroaig A weird little book. Starts off Barbara Pym-ish. Next thing you know we've escaped to the country and become a witch.

Beautiful writing. Divided into 3 Parts with no Chapters which makes it feel like it is rambling sometimes. I like Chapters because it gives you a natural break.

Fun Fact the very 1st Book of the Month Selection from 1926.
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Crinoline_Laphroaig Kind of a Spoiler but I was glad to know. 2y
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batsy Ooh, I like that description! I love both Lolly Willowes and Excellent Women 💕 2y
DivineDiana Love your review! Already stacked! 2y
kspenmoll 🙌🏻😂😂 2y
AllDebooks 🤣🤣📚 2y
Sparklemn Sounds fun. On my wishlist. 2y
Vansa Would love to read this. Thanks for sharing! 2y
willaful I read this decades ago and it made an impression! I still remember the little poem at the end. 2y
TheAromaofBooks Fantastic review! 😂 2y
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Crinoline_Laphroaig
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#PemberLittens
I'd never heard the name Everard until
#excellentwomenandboiledpotatoes Readalong. Now it's popped up in Current Read: "Everard, the eldest son...." is ancestor of Lolly.

I picked this out from Book of the Month because it was the very 1st #BOTM back in 1926.
#conciedenceIthinknot

LeahBergen And it was a character‘s name in a book I just finished, too! 2y
rwmg Those of us of a certain vintage from the UK may remember the stand-up comedian Larry Grayson's friend Everard 2y
Crinoline_Laphroaig @LeahBergen that looks like a fun read! 2y
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Crinoline_Laphroaig @rwmg will have to look that up! 2y
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SerialReader
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One of the more intriguing books from 1926 now in the public domain and Serial Reader:

"Lolly" breaks away from her controlling family to the countryside where she finds freedom... and witchcraft! Yes! Satire, comedy, fantasy, and feminism all in one.

Read it in 16 issues with #serialreader

BarbaraBB Such a great book! Thanks for adding it! 3y
batsy I was so delighted to see this in there! 3y
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Centique
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Delightful and then delightfully wicked. I‘d have enjoyed it just for the brilliant Lolly; her spinsterhood and wistful nostalgia for the independence of childhood and the home where she could explore nature. In later life Lolly throws caution to the wind, undoes the ties that bind and creates a new home. I fell in love with her new life in Great Mop and enjoyed her fight to keep it. Beautifully written with a feminist barb in its tail.

Cathythoughts Great review 👍🏻❤️ 3y
BarbaraBB Great read indeed! 3y
batsy Fab review! I love Lolly and I'm so glad you enjoyed it, too 💕 3y
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erzascarletbookgasm Lovely review! 💛 I hope to get to this next year 😄 3y
merelybookish Excellent review! It's hard not to fall for Lolly! 💚🧙 3y
LeahBergen Lovely review! I enjoyed this one, too. 😊 3y
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underground_bks
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Published in 1926, later becoming the very first Book Of The Month, Lolly Willowes is a classic of feminist literature—and unapologetically, literally witchy. Laura, called Lolly by her niblings, is a spinster smothered by family obligation. She moves to the countryside alone to pursue her own life. This is a brief but slow-building novella but the payoff is worth the wait for Laura and for her readers.

batsy Great photo! 🐈🧙‍♀️ 3y
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Dilara
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Lolly made a pact with Satan just so that her family would leave her be in the countryside ! Love it 🤣

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Dilara
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I bought this book in a second-hand bookshop recently and it‘s falling to pieces! I am roughly halfway through and loving every minute of it. I might have to buy a cleaner, better copy at some point. Also notice the publisher‘s logo 🤨. I guess they have an ironic sense of humour.

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Dilara
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My haul from the book town I visited yesterday

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Tanisha_A
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Hi! ❤️ I have been very inactive here, and i missed you all. I finished reading Willowes sometime back, and missed the discussion, yet again. But i went through the comments, which I found to be an interesting exchange of thoughts. Here‘s my review:

Lolly (Laura), an ageing spinster is forced to live with her relations and be part of their domestic lives. The notion that, because a woman is not married, she is not an individual, is sharply,👇🏽

Tanisha_A scornfully portrayed in this feminist novel published in 1926, set in England. The book is divided in two distinct parts – first half depicts Lolly‘s struggles with the boundaries she‘s been put within, while the second half charts out her journey of breaking those shackles, grabbing her freedom, and living a life of will and happiness. It‘s a brilliant text on finding/realising one‘s individuality. 3y
vivastory Terrific review! I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed this one. 3y
BookishMarginalia Welcome back! 3y
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LeahBergen Hello! 👋🏻 Lovely review. 3y
batsy Lovely to see you back and so happy you liked this! 3y
quietjenn So nice to see you and great thoughts on Lolly! 3y
Reggie Is it the marital bliss keeping you away? Lol, good to see you again! 3y
BarbaraBB Happy to see you back! 🤍 3y
Tanisha_A @vivastory Thankee Scott! It was a bit slow in the beginning, but i am so glad i kept on. I didn‘t fathom that I‘d end up loving it, and that it‘d make me think a lot. Very good selection! 😊 3y
Tanisha_A @LeahBergen @batsy @quietjenn Hi, hi! ❤️ So happy to be back. And this one turned from a bit boring in the beginning to a fantastic read for me. Yay! 3y
Tanisha_A @BookishMarginalia @BarbaraBB Hola, ladies! ❤️ Happy to be talking to you all again! 3y
Tanisha_A @Reggie Hahahaha! You say it the best, Reg! ☺️ 3y
BiblioLitten Lovely picture! 💕 3y
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Leftcoastzen
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#NYRBBookClub So,I think it should be called the Spinster lit book club as many of the titles are in this vein .I enjoyed the book , its dry humor.No doubt it is a rich topic as women are seen as daughter , debutant, bride , mother , grandmother & what to make of a woman who doesn‘t follow the path. Laura‘s role as aunt submerged her relationship w/ nature when uprooted from a county house to life in London w/ family.No wonder she escaped !

vivastory Spinster lit book club has a nice ring to it 😂 3y
Leftcoastzen @vivastory I was sorry I was not finished in time for discussion. 3y
quietjenn It for sure seems like a number of our choices would fall into this vein! I‘m pretty all about the Spinster Lit though, so make no apologies. 3y
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Leftcoastzen @quietjenn me too! Ready for the Spinster Lit Fan Club t-shirt ! Also loved review by @Billypar maybe why mine a little irreverent.😄 3y
quietjenn @Leftcoastzen I think Lolly would approve of your irreverence and your review sure her justice 😉 3y
Billypar I love this review 😅 I felt like Lolly Willowes ended on somewhat of a positive note, even if it wasn't quite a happy ending. The same can't really be said for Skylark and certainly not for The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearn! 3y
Leftcoastzen @Billypar oh , Judith!the most miserable of them all ! 3y
batsy I'm all for #spinsterlit book club! 🙌🏾😆 3y
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Billypar
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Feminism, witches, repressive 1926 society - the pieces suggest a novel we don't even have to read -- we get the gist from the blurb on the back flap. Except that's just not the case with this novel. It's neither the fantasy novel nor the satire you might expect. The title character spends most of the novel in a realistic world and doesn't spend it fighting against the oppressive forces of a patriarchal society 👇

Billypar Instead, she tries to make sense of how to maintain dignity in such a world, along with a sense of spiritual awe, when the patriarchal structures of family and religion offer neither. She sees the benefits of being a spinster, but also learns the problems of being outside society aren't easily dismissed. This book is not only progressive, it's also wise. I'm indebted to #nyrbbookclub for putting it on my radar even though I missed the discussion! (edited) 3y
quietjenn Such a great review! Hooray for Lolly (Laura)! 3y
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batsy Fantastic review! I'm so glad you liked it. I love this book for all the reasons you mentioned ❤️ 3y
JazzFeathers Needs!!!!! 3y
Billypar @quietjenn Thanks! And thanks for leading this month's pick- the discussion questions were great. 3y
Billypar @batsy Thanks! This and The True Deceiver from earlier this year are new nyrb favorites for me. 3y
LeahBergen What a lovely review! 3y
vivastory Stellar review! Sorry you missed the discussion but I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on it & I'm so happy that this is a new favorite for you. I love it & am looking forward to reading more Warner! 3y
Billypar @LeahBergen Thanks! 🙂 3y
Billypar @vivastory Thanks! I'm interested in reading more of her too - I didn't even realize she had another from nyrb (also featuring a memorable title). 3y
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Question 6: At the beginning of the book, Lolly (Laura) feels the pressures of familial obligations. These remain even after her move to Great Mop. Once she has made a pact with the devil, has she truly gained independence or is she still under forced obligation but of another kind?

#NYRBBookClub

vivastory Great job with selecting the pictures 👍 3y
vivastory I have ambiguous feelings about the ending which I think is a great ending. On the one hand it does seem like LW is merely trading one form of male dominance for another, on the other it does seem like she has reached a sort of new found independence through her pact with the devil. 3y
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quietjenn @vivastory thanks! I had great fun picking them out. 3y
quietjenn I don't feel there's total freedom at the end. Although it definitely makes you consider how stifling things must have been otherwise, if making the pact with the devil tipped the scales as the better option. 3y
vivastory @quietjenn There also did seem to be a feeling that the devil saw her as more of an individual than anyone in her family ever did. Most of them seemed to view her in terms of either how helpless she was or how much she could help in the household 3y
quietjenn @vivastory that's a great point! Like when he recognized that the persona of the Bacchanalian lover at the Witch's party had no appeal for her, so he transformed himself into someone she'd want to converse with. 3y
BarbaraBB @vivastory That‘s right I think, Satan is the first to really appreciate her for who she is. She can let her guard down. 3y
GatheringBooks @vivastory precisely what i thought! Here goes another male figure to be subservient towards - yet the fact that the spinster can give Satan a scolding made me smile. 3y
GatheringBooks I echo @vivastory ‘s comments about the photos, dear @quietjenn - super loved the thoughtful questions, too! 3y
quietjenn @GatheringBooks thank you, and please give @vivastory lots of credit for forming coherent questions from my brain dump 😂 👏 3y
sisilia The whole of Part 3 of the book is my least favorite part. Why must she turn to Satan? 😅 As @quietjenn said, I doubt she gets her desired freedom at the end. The devil must want something in return 3y
Billypar I'm so upset to be a day late finishing this - I loved it! I liked how the end doesn't give a definitive answer to what the Devil's ways really are. The fact that he's likened to a hunter or trapping humans with a net suggests that he is the enemy of freedom, even though Laura outwardly gained more freedom by becoming a witch. I thought there was the suggestion that she was unique from others only by knowing she was in his grasp. 3y
quietjenn @Billypar I‘m so glad you decided to chime in, even if a day later .The points you make about the Hunter aspect of the Devil are great ones! 3y
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Question 5: Warner's style has been variously described as detached & breezy, yet there is some great humor present. Do you find Warner's style effective?

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vivastory Definitely! This is the only Warner that I have read, but I do think that the humor, subtle as it is, was very effective. 3y
quietjenn I *loved* the humor of this book, and was certainly not expecting it. Thinking of the dinner scene when they are trying to marry her off and she tells that dude that he might be a werewolf still makes me laugh. 3y
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quietjenn I appreciate so much that it's dealing with some of the issues that we've discussed, but in a tone and style that isn't ponderous or pretentious. 3y
vivastory @quietjenn 😂 I loved that scene. I can't help but imagine Laura & Marian from The Hearing Trumpet at a dinner party together 3y
LeahBergen Yes! The werewolf comment at dinner was the BEST. 🤣 3y
GatheringBooks Honestly, the writing didn‘t really resonate with me all that well. This felt almost like an “obligatory read” for me for book club, and one that I would probably not have selected to read on my own. I may not have been in the right headspace? Found myself drifting off on occasion, and did not really connect with any of the characters at all. Felt very disconnected from it. Maybe if I read it at another time, I would see it differently? 3y
GatheringBooks @quietjenn this is one scene I definitely remembered and paid attention to. Yet the humor is so wry it almost felt like it wasn‘t meant to be comedic at all. 3y
quietjenn @GatheringBooks It's certainly possible. I know I tried to read it when I first got the book - maybe four or five years ago? - and didn't make it further than the first few pages. I'm glad you finished it though and have contributed great points to the discussion! 3y
sisilia I echo @GatheringBooks here. If it‘s not for the bookclub, I‘d probably just DNF this 😢 I saw her other titles in the NYRB Classics catalog, and am reluctant to pick them up after LW 3y
DrexEdit Well, I didn't manage to finish the book on time, but I do like the writing style. It's quiet with a lot going on underneath the surface. I've encountered a few very funny moments so far. I find the humor very dry, just the way I like it. 😄 3y
quietjenn @DrexEdit it‘s a very good match for my sense of humor as well 😅 3y
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Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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Question 4: Lolly (Laura) lives with Henry & Caroline for 20 years before she has her epiphany in the grocery shop, precipitating her announcement that she is moving to Great Mop. Did her announcement surprise you?

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BarbaraBB I admit that it took her quite an amount of time. But then again time flies in this book, we race through Lolly‘s life. 3y
vivastory As I've mentioned, this was a reread. I didn't recall it taking quite as long for her to have her epiphany, but I really appreciated it. In many ways it felt genuine to the situation that women were in at the time. Their freedoms were def constricted by either their spouses or their loved ones. 3y
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quietjenn I agree that it felt genuine and realistic. Although I still found myself thinking, “gosh, it took you long enough!“ But that's coming from a modern day Maiden Aunt who just can't fathom living so long under the obligation of others. 😉 3y
LeahBergen I wasn‘t really surprised as I felt her building up to something big. I would‘ve been more surprised (and disappointed) if she ended up taking no action at all. I was rooting for her! 3y
emilyhaldi It makes sense perhaps in explaining why her life as Lolly is so difficult to discard even after her move. By that point she‘s defined her role in life so firmly that it‘s hard to break free. I‘m sure the time period contributed to this as well… It was so much harder to make a decision of independence like that! 3y
quietjenn @LeahBergen same! 🙂 3y
quietjenn @emilyhaldi love this take on discarding the role of Lolly. You and @LeahBergen are making me re-think my swatting away of the word “steel“! 3y
GatheringBooks I suppose the blurb was a spoiler/giveaway. I was expecting her to do this big reveal way sooner though, but the storyline felt more credible. I was also amazed at her calm and her disposition after learning that her brother “lost” all her money in an unsound investment. OMG. 3y
quietjenn @GatheringBooks yes, I was so infuriated at him, on her behalf. 3y
Billypar Even knowing about the witch thing in advance, I felt like just about every plot twist surprised me, this one included. That's a hallmark of my favorite novels. 3y
Billypar On a sidenote - I very much empathized with how she romanticized the idea of discovering a hidden town with the entire guidebook sequence. I feel like I do a version of that on weekend trips with Google Maps 🙂 3y
quietjenn @Billypar that‘s awesome! I think it‘s something I should try adopting, if only for the occasional weekend 😎 3y
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Question 3: Published in 1926, many reviewers noted the precarious position of women at the time in a post war society. Lolly was an international bestseller upon publication. Do you think this was due to Warner addressing/tackling issues of the patriarchy, or other reasons?

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BarbaraBB I do think so. Her story must have been recognizable for women in Europe where a whole generation of young men died in the war. Women had to find a place and role for themselves and the route that Lolly chooses must have appealed to many. 3y
vivastory @BarbaraBB I agree. Several reviews of LW noted that Warner wrote of a “life of one's own“ years before Woolf spoke of a “room of one's own“. I also think it was a rarely heard story at that time in fiction & offered imaginative possibilities rarely seen in narratives then 3y
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quietjenn @vivastory @BarbaraBB I think that's really key. This book and a few others I've been reading have had me thinking about the Great War and just the staggering loss. 3y
quietjenn @vivastory I saw some of those reviews, with regards to Woolf and definitely think the parallels are interesting. A part of me also kept comparing Clarissa Dalloway in the flower shop with Lolly in the grocery. 3y
vivastory @quietjenn That's a great comparison & I think that Warner would love it. She was an avid reader. One of the books I've heard a lot about as Ive made my way through backlisted archives is 3y
vivastory @quietjenn I don't recall if we talked about it, but they did a great episode about LW on their show 3y
quietjenn @vivastory That will definitely go on the TBR (although maybe not before The Corner That Held Them, since I already own that one). I can't remember either, although I saw a few podcasts about the book, which I wasn't able to listen to. I keep meaning to start Backlisted, because I know I'll love it, but haven't made the time yet. Because I also know I'll probably a) get obsessed and b) want to read a million more things. 3y
vivastory @quietjenn I've definitely become a bit obsessed with Backlisted (although I've taken a bit of a break & am now listening to What Should I Read Next). Their love for the books they're discussing is really infectious. 3y
LeahBergen @quietjenn I have The Corner That Held Them, too, and (seeing how much I enjoyed this one) I‘m looking forward to it even more. 3y
vivastory @LeahBergen I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed this one! 3y
GatheringBooks I love the Q: Dismantle the Patriarchy! 3y
GatheringBooks In her own way, Lolly did just that: attempt to dismantle or discredit the patriarchy - she was even giving the Devil a dressing down, for goodness‘ sakes. I was half expecting a loud spanking to happen. 3y
quietjenn @GatheringBooks right, I almost forgot about that! She addresses him like one of her nieces or nephews. 😆 3y
Billypar I usually don't like it when characters give speeches at the end of novels. But I thought Laura's worked well because it wasn't just an embrace of feminism, but it provided subtle insights into what 'patriarchy' really means. It felt like it put a lot of smaller observations into a cohesive picture, and I think that is probably why the novel resonated with a forward-thinking women and men of the day. 3y
quietjenn @Billypar terrific observation! I‘m so glad you liked the book and added your thoughts! 3y
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Question 2: The title of the book is from the nickname first given to Laura by her young niece. Laura always disliked the nickname. Why would Warner use it as the title of the book?

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vivastory I read in one review that Warner makes the reader complicit in Laura's diminishment by giving the book the title of a nickname that she despised. I thought that was an interesting argument, if not entirely convincing 3y
quietjenn The contrast between Laura and Lolly is one of the things that I find most interesting about the book, although I've always been fascinated by issues related to the roles and identities we all adopt as we make our way through life. To me, Laura feels like the role that feels true to her and who she is when she's able to chart her own course. Lolly is the role that comes at the behest of other people. 3y
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quietjenn And at the end of the day, our lives are never determined solely by ourselves. 3y
vivastory @quietjenn Very well said! I think that's exactly it, it's the pull that Laura feels between obligations towards her family (some of who she clearly loves) & her own independence. 3y
GatheringBooks @quietjenn oooh i love this - the power that names wield: the names given to people and the names people decide to use for themselves for one reason or another. Love this insight concerning the tension within Lolly / Laura and her feeble attempts and fumbling efforts at self-definition. 3y
BarbaraBB Very insightful @quietjenn I think that‘s it! 3y
LeahBergen This is fascinating re: names or titles which mold our character. I was also going to add that “Lolly Willowes” is just a damn intriguing title for a book! 😆 3y
vivastory @LeahBergen I agree that it's a good title! 3y
emilyhaldi @quietjenn nailed it.. and the Lolly persona just seemed to overshadow Laura‘s life no matter how she tried to change identities. Certainly true today in how others influence our own roles in life, but in the 1920‘s so much more so for a woman! 3y
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Question 1: In her essay, Justine Jordan writes, “For there is steel in Lolly Willows, though much of its bite and danger is hidden, even from Lolly herself. There is the ancient power of myth and landscape, the dark woods and lanes through which Lolly blithely strolls and which feel as though they could swallow her up at any moment.“ Do you agree with this statement?
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BarbaraBB I think it was clear from the start that Lolly is not your ordinary spinster. She kept to herself but we knew she had her opinions. To call it steel however seems a bit exaggerated if you ask me. 3y
vivastory I do agree with this statement, esp the second half of it. I think it is the “ancient power of myth & landscape“ that Lolly finds attractive throughout the book, even at the beginning when it speaks about her being on vacation with Henry & Caroline & not being able to go on treks to find her “strange herbs“ because she was stuck taking care of the children 3y
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quietjenn @BarbaraBB yes, I'm not quite sure that steel is the word that I would use! I do think there is a good bit of resolve in Lolly, both at the beginning of her life (before her father's death) and after she decides to move to Great Mop and during events that follow. But that middle, when she is occupying the role of maiden aunt, maybe not quite so much? Those very much feel like “the jetsam years“ to me. But maybe that is when it is hidden! (edited) 3y
Leftcoastzen I‘m not finished yet ! I‘m gonna chime in later. 3y
quietjenn I do appreciate that this take points out the use of myth and landscape. I thought that some of the writing about the geography of the land was quite evocative and I liked the way some of that myth was introduced. I found myself Googling “hen wife“ and then, when the “Lonely Huntsman“ appears, thinking lots about how the Devil has been portrayed in culture and literature. 3y
quietjenn @Leftcoastzen no worries! But do avoid the other tags, in case they are spoiler-y! 3y
vivastory @quietjenn That's a great point about the portrayal of “Lonely Huntsman“ & his portrayal. I also found myself thinking about this. 3y
GatheringBooks I read the penguin modern classics version so did not have a chance to read the essay describing lolly‘s “steel” but I am more with @BarbaraBB here - there is definitely strength of character and resolve as @quietjenn noted - but sadly it appeared fairly late in her life. I felt she was continually under the shadow of her father, then her brothers later on, and the nephew towards the end - despite the attempts to chart her own path 3y
quietjenn @GatheringBooks it did feel like her attempts were being constantly thwarted. When Titus shows up in Great Mop, her anxiety almost felt palpable to me as a reader. 3y
quietjenn @GatheringBooks that's such a pretty edition. I am tempted by the Virago version, just because I'd like to read the introduction by Sarah Waters. I kept finding references to a Guardian essay she wrote about LW, but couldn't find it online anymore and I suspect it might've been taken down to use as that intro? 3y
LeahBergen I actually DO think there was a lot of steel in her. To live uncomplainingly and do her “duty” for 20 years to all of a sudden taking her own life firmly by the reins - these would both take so much inner strength (and especially in the era in which she lived). It almost makes me want to dash off to the bucolic English countryside and join a coven. 🤣 3y
quietjenn @LeahBergen Ha, I feel like I always flirt with that urge (thanks to Mary Stewart and Barbara Michaels maybe), so no surprise that I liked this book so much. 3y
GatheringBooks @quietjenn there was no introduction at all in my edition, sadly. 😭😭 3y
batsy I'm sorry that I didn't manage to re-read the book in time for discussion; although it's one of my favourites certain details do escape me. I'm just not in the best headspace for discussions and seem to be craving mindless popcorn reads 🙈 3y
quietjenn @batsy it happens! And that craving is one I'm quite familiar with. 😏 We missed you, but it's totally understandable. 3y
merelybookish Ditto @batsy! I love this book but am out-of-town and didn't get around to revisiting it. 3y
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Coffee with Lolly this morning. I hope I finish in time for the chat, but even if not, I‘m so glad we picked this one since this BOTM edition has been staring at me accusingly for at least five years!

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vivastory I hope you can join us! Feel free to chime in late. I'm looking forward to your nominations for the August selection. 3y
mklong @vivastory Oooh fun, I thought @leahbergen was ahead of me in the lineup, but I guess we go by actual names and not handles. Anyway, I‘ll definitely be late now bc my friend who is a bookseller just offered me his ARC of the new Sally Rooney! (edited) 3y
vivastory @mklong Yeah, I organized it by first name & when necessary by last name too. This was to avoid any confusion if someone changed their handle. Ah, nice! Enjoy 🙂 3y
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quietjenn It's such a nice edition! Look forward to your comments whenever you get to them. Enjoy the Rooney! 3y
LeahBergen Don‘t scare me like that. I thought I‘d have to make some panic picks. 🤣 3y
rubyslippersreads I‘m behind on this, but will catch up on the chat when I‘m done. I‘m enjoying it so far. 3y
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When her father died, Laura Willowes went to live in London with her elder brother and his family.

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2⭐️ It‘s tough to enjoy this book while I still have “Look at Me” hot in my mind. Lolly Willowes is a spinster craving for solitude, and the book keeps circling this theme in the first half that I got bored with it. I totally lost it when witchcraft enters the picture 🤦🏻‍♀️

Cathythoughts Oh dear 🤦🏼‍♀️… I think I‘ll pass on this one for the moment 3y
sisilia @Cathythoughts It could be just me 😄 I highly recommend that Brookner‘s book, though 3y
Cathythoughts 👍🏻 I‘ll definitely be reading the Brookner ❤️ 3y
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Reading Lolly Willowes…. and I‘m bored. I get it, she‘s a spinster who wants to be left alone, but why the part with the cat, the devil etc? 😵‍💫 Anita Brookner‘s “Look at Me” set a high standard for a spinster lit, and I don‘t find it here with Lolly

rjsthumbelina Is it difficult to turn the pages with one of these? 3y
sisilia @rjsthumbelina Not really. The page holder is quite firm and i just use one hand easily 3y
rubyslippersreads Without spoilers for other Littens, should someone (me) sensitive to animals in peril avoid this book? 3y
sisilia @rubyslippersreads Oh, this should be fine for you. This novel is not favorable for those who dislike witchcraft and surrealism 3y
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vivastory I hope that you like it! It's a bit of a slow burn, but I think it pays off 3y
quietjenn Hurrah! Can't wait to hear what you think 🤔 3y
Cathythoughts Lovely picture 💫 3y
Lauram Great picture! 3y
BarbaraBB Enjoy 🍷 3y
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Lolly Willowes | Sylvia Townsend Warner
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Going to start this….

vivastory Looking forward to your thoughts! 3y
BarbaraBB Me too! 3y
LeahBergen I‘ll be starting soon, too! 3y
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The First World War wiped out a generation of young English men and left behind young women, both widows and spinsters, who went in search for a life of their own.
So does Lolly Willowes, who escapes convention by becoming a witch. Doesn‘t that sound great? I think it does, but the book is (some great quotes aside) mainly booooooring.

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LeahBergen Oh no! I haven‘t started it yet. 3y
vivastory 😂 I'm sorry it didn't work for you. 3y
BarbaraBB @LeahBergen Don‘t let me discourage you. @vivastory and @batsy love it! 3y
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BarbaraBB @vivastory It could have been so much better I think. At least it was short 😀 3y
quietjenn Alas! While my take was slightly different than yours, it's true that nothing plays out quite like I expected it to! Hopefully it at least went by relatively quickly (although that might be difficult with boring). 3y
rubyslippersreads I haven‘t started it yet either, but I‘m going to give it a chance. 3y
vivastory It is short. Like @quietjenn I have a different take. I think it'll be an interesting discussion next weekend! 3y
vivastory @rubyslippersreads It's a quick read.. I definitely recommend giving it a shot 3y
BarbaraBB @vivastory @quietjenn I am looking forward to the discussion nevertheless. As I said, the premise is very good and will certainly lead to another great discussion! 3y
AlaMich This is on my TBR because I loved The Corner That Held Them so much. I tend to like boring books, though! 😂 3y
BarbaraBB @rubyslippersreads @alamich You should definitely read it, it is short and well-written. I just could have been better I think 3y
rubyslippersreads @vivastory If you and @batsy both like it, that‘s a good recommendation. 😊 3y
batsy @AlaMich Same! 😂 3y
batsy Ah, that's a shame! This is one of my favourites but I can see it being a fairly meh book for some. 3y
ValerieAndBooks I did like this one, although it was quieter in tone than I expected for a novel about witching! 3y
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I wasn‘t able to participate in the last NYRB discussion, but hoping to make it to this one!

Sylvia about this book: “I felt as though I had tried to make a sword, only to be told what a pretty pattern there was on the blade”, she wrote to a friend.

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vivastory I'll be curious to see your thoughts on this one. I think you'll love it. 3y
quietjenn What a good quote. Looking forward to hearing what everyone thinks of this! 3y
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rubyslippersreads I missed the last one too, but I‘ve had this one on my TBR list for years, so I definitely want to join in. 3y
batsy I got myself that edition too ♥️ 3y
LeahBergen @batsy I have the NYRB edition but definitely prefer this one! 3y
Tanisha_A @batsy @LeahBergen Love this cover! 😍 3y
Tanisha_A @rubyslippersreads I have heard so much about it from people, how they adore it. I am excited! 😃 3y
Tanisha_A @vivastory @quietjenn Thank you both, for hosting it! Looking forward. 😊 3y
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