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Babel: Or the Necessity of Violence: An Arcane History of The Oxford Translators' Revolution | R. F. Kuang
From award-winning author R. F. Kuang comes Babel, a thematic response to The Secret History? and a tonal retort to Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell that grapples with student revolutions, colonial resistance, and the use of language and translation as the dominating tool of the British empire. Traduttore, traditore: An act of translation is always an act of betrayal. 1828. Robin Swift, orphaned by cholera in Canton, is brought to London by the mysterious Professor Lovell. There, he trains for years in Latin, Ancient Greek, and Chinese, all in preparation for the day hell enroll in Oxford Universitys prestigious Royal Institute of Translationalso known as Babel. Babel is the world's center for translation and, more importantly, magic. Silver workingthe art of manifesting the meaning lost in translation using enchanted silver barshas made the British unparalleled in power, as its knowledge serves the Empires quest for colonization. For Robin, Oxford is a utopia dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge. But knowledge obeys power, and as a Chinese boy raised in Britain, Robin realizes serving Babel means betraying his motherland. As his studies progress, Robin finds himself caught between Babel and the shadowy Hermes Society, an organization dedicated to stopping imperial expansion. When Britain pursues an unjust war with China over silver and opium, Robin must decide Can powerful institutions be changed from within, or does revolution always require violence?
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pyjamaviking
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I finished Babel! #5starread #fantasy #babel

dabbe 🙌🏻🤩🙌🏻 2d
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DebbieGrillo
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Babel puts a magical spin on 19th-century British colonialism. In this world, silver bars engraved with words from two languages that don‘t perfectly translate can create powerful magic. But at its core, the novel makes it clear that racism is the driving force behind England‘s colonization efforts. This was a heavy and thought-provoking read that should come with a trigger warning for racism, sexism, violence, and suicide.

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Awk_Word_Smith
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LOVED Kuang‘s Poppy Wars Trilogy. Finally starting this!

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LatrelWhite
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About last night!❤️❤️❤️

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Rachel.Rencher
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Okay, I finished Babel and I have some mixed feelings. I loved the dark academia vibes of 1830s Oxford and I felt like the topics of anticolonialism, racism, sexism, and classism were handled well. I just don't think this book needed to be a fantasy. The magic elements are cool, but they feel forced in some respects. I almost wish it had just been a dark historical thriller.
I'm going to add some more thoughts in comments with the spoiler tag.

Rachel.Rencher First of all, they're working with SO much silver that they're described as glistening with silver dust all over their clothes. They're also using mercury. How come the health effects of that are never brought up? 1mo
Rachel.Rencher Second of all, Kuang follows history so closely, maybe changing the course of events by a year or two (although I couldn't figure out why), that the silver was superfluous for most of the story. There were a few cool tricks that it could perform, but why was it set up like this was going to be some big change maker in the world? It never got to the level of necessity or excitement that I was hoping for. 1mo
Rachel.Rencher Finally, the magic system bugged me. I liked the idea of capturing the essence of meaning that gets lost in translation. That's a fun topic that I've thought about before, but I thought the execution of it was a tad flimsy and wish she'd put more thought into the necessity of the silver in the whole process. 1mo
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Rachel.Rencher That said, I think the book really does do a fantastic job of highlighting greed in leadership, corruption, and complacency in exchange for a convenient life. All very topical. 1mo
Ruthiella I totally agree with you. The magic was unnecessary because of how closely the book adhered to history. Also, I prefer a little more subtlety and shades of gray in my bad guys. 1mo
Rachel.Rencher @Ruthiella Yes! I agree. The characters in all were very flat, but finding a trove of letters spelling out the entire war was a bit...convenient. 1mo
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Rachel.Rencher
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I just got the news that I have another snow day tomorrow! Friday will *likely* be my only work day this week. I'm very much so appreciating the extra time to read and get stuff done around the house and work the shop.

P.s. notice the Corgi ears?

SheReadsAndWrites 🐾❤️😂 1mo
JenP Im reading this now. Do you like it so far? 1mo
Rachel.Rencher @JenP I love it! I'm halfway through and should finish by tomorrow. 1mo
LoverOfLearning This is a great book! 1mo
marleed Those ear tips! 1mo
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LoverOfLearning
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A historical fiction fantasy about the importance and dangers of translating language. How does culture and racism play a role in how words are translated? Is translation always an act of violence?

A story of survival, self-discovery, education, power, and betrayal.

It's an incredible read. 5 stars 🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟
Have you read this one?

TrishB I loved it ❤️ 1mo
rachaich Amazing book. I can't believe she wrote that and Yellowface and her trilogy and is still not 30. Such talent. 1mo
Texreader I thought it was a fascinating read 1mo
LoverOfLearning @rachaich actually insane! Love that for her 1mo
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Rachel.Rencher
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My sweet little reading buddy 🥺

Ruthiella ❤️🐶❤️🐶❤️ 1mo
BookmarkTavern Hi sweetheart! ❤️❤️❤️ 1mo
Texreader All the love!!💕 1mo
LoverOfLearning A great book! Are you enjoying it so far? 1mo
Rachel.Rencher @LoverOfLearning I'm loving it! 1mo
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Rachel.Rencher
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Started this one & so far, I love it! I'm realizing that fantasy *has* to be told in the 3rd person for me to enjoy it. I was happy to see that this one is.

LoverOfLearning This is an excellent read! Hope you enjoy it 1mo
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LoverOfLearning
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An overview of some of my favorite books from 2024 :)

Yes, I'm behind on this, but I'm back to Litsy. That's what matters. 🥰😅

Ruthiella Never too late! 😃 1mo
RowReads1 Welcome back! It‘s good to see you. 1mo
Jari-chan Yay! Welcome back! And it really is never too late. Project Hail Mary is such a great book 💖 1mo
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mhillis Great list! I also enjoyed 1mo
Amor4Libros Welcome back! Great list, I LOVE the Shadow of the Wind series ❤️ 1mo
Librarybelle Welcome back! 1mo
Julsmarshall Happy to see you! 1mo
eeclayton I also read and loved The Secret History last year. Welcome back! 1mo
rachelsbrittain Ah yes Babel is an all-time great! I'm so excited for Kuang's new book coming out this year 1mo
LoverOfLearning @Jari-chan So good! But honestly, I liked The Martian a bit better. I think because I read it first. But I was hooked. Both are fantastic though! And thank you :) 1mo
LoverOfLearning @mhillis @eeclayton such a good one! My bookclub had a great time discussing this one! 1mo
LoverOfLearning @rachelsbrittain oh me too! I see people with the ARC and I'm so jealous of them! 1mo
Lesliereadsalot Wasn‘t A Little Life amazing? I couldn‘t believe the intensity! 1mo
LoverOfLearning @Lesliereadsalot yes! I couldn't pull myself away. It was beautifully tragic. I've worked in the social work/trauma field for 8 years. I felt it was an honor to hear such a personal story so I could learn from it. Fiction or not this is someone's reality and it deserves recognition. Was such a powerful read. I cried the whole time! 1mo
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Gryffleclaw95
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⭐️⭐️⭐️

“Babel” is not an easy read. Racism, slavery, and colonialism are major themes in this book, and Robin‘s journey is both empowering yet heartbreaking. I am in awe of Kuang‘s world building and attention to numerous languages. All of the above confirm “Babel” being worth the hype, it just wasn‘t for me personally.

LoverOfLearning I loved this one. 1mo
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“Because you‘re a good translator.‘ Ramy leaned back on his elbows. ‘That‘s just what translation is, I think. That‘s all speaking is. Listening to the other and trying to see past your own biases to glimpse what they‘re trying to say. Showing yourself to the world, and hoping someone else understands.”

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CarolynM
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Thank you so much, Barbara, for these lovely books and for your kind words. I love the little Christmas Tree band too🥰 Although I hadn‘t stacked Blue Sisters I have been thinking that I would like to read it, so you must have read my mind😆 Thank you again, my friend.

Cathythoughts Lovely 🥰 2mo
BarbaraBB Glad it‘s there although rather late 🤦🏻‍♀️ I hope you‘ll love both books! 2mo
TheKidUpstairs Blue Sisters just barely missed out on my Auld Lang Spine list, it's really good! 2mo
squirrelbrain Blue Sisters is so good! ❤️ 2mo
LoverOfLearning Babel is so good! One of my top 5 from 2024 that I read. 1mo
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lil1inblue
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My 2024 favorites:

Fiction: Babel by R.F. Kuang
Non-Fiction: A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear
Poetry: The Wild Iris by Louise Glück

In 2025, I'm going to set my reading goal low and increase it as I meet it. It worked well for me in 2024. I'm also not putting time limits on my reading challenges. (Except the Les Mis buddy read.) They will take as long as they take. 🥰 I hope we all have a fabulous year of reading!

#2024wrapup #2025goals

LoverOfLearning Babel was so good. One of my favorites from 2024! 1mo
lil1inblue @LoverOfLearning So, so good! 🤩🤩🤩 1mo
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Schnoebs
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Idk, why I thought I would actively want to read this. I really have not found many historical books that I truly enjoy and can get invested in. Even with the fantastical subplot, I just didn‘t care. Honestly, I think this was more a peer pressure thing where I saw so many people loving the book and I gave into the hype. #dnf

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dabbe
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#12daysofchristmas @Andrew65

Dark academia, meticulous etymology, bildungsroman, speculative fiction that reads like fiction and NF at the same time ... I was completely gobsmacked.

Andrew65 I‘m yet to read this. 3mo
TheBookHippie My daughter loved this read. 3mo
Larkken The footnotes were my fav part!! I love a good footnote 😍 3mo
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dabbe @Andrew65 It's so worth the read. 3mo
dabbe @TheBookHippie I loved it so much more than YELLOWFACE. Plus, it was so much more different and academic! 3mo
dabbe @Larkken They were, weren't they? 🤩 3mo
AllDebooks Such a good novel 3mo
dabbe @AllDebooks Agree 💯! 3mo
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RowReads1
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Yay! Used.

LoverOfLearning Love me a good thrifted book! 1mo
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LadyCait84
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Word-nerds are rarely depicted as fervent rebels, or at least not the kind who might believe the sword is mightier…

But it makes sense here, as a multi-national cohort at a fictional Institute of Translation reckon with the ways they (and the global population at large) are manipulated and exploited by the seekers of empire. But their refusal to participate in the status quo (as always) has consequences.

LoverOfLearning An excellent read! 1mo
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BookMaven9
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Yea I just couldn‘t stay awake long enough for this.

dabbe #allhailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 7mo
Lesliereadsalot I hear you. I read to the end but was disappointed. 7mo
BookMaven9 I struggled so hard and wanted to make it but just couldn‘t. I didn‘t miss anything right? 7mo
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KCofKaysville
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Robin confronts Lovell about his Chinese mother.

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staci.reads
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I have a lot of feelings about this book, and at one point, I was sure it would be a 5-star book for me, but I struggled with the ending, and I felt the footnotes detracted from the reading experience. Overall, though, it was a great read! July #AuthorAMonth. @Soubhiville

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dabbe
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#AboutABook
#NewToYouAuthor
@Eggs
@Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

I would never have heard of RF Kuang without last year's #CampLitsy and YELLOWFACE. I read BABEL for this year's #AuthorAMonth, and I loved it even more! She's already a prolific author, and she's only in her 20s!

lil1inblue This was a new to me author this year, too. I'm so excited to read more of her work! 8mo
dabbe @lil1inblue 💚💙💚 8mo
Eggs Another author I haven‘t read…! 8mo
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dabbe @Eggs 🩶🖤🩶 8mo
IMASLOWREADER @dabbe enjoyed yellow face and babel is on my list 8mo
dabbe @IMASLOWREADER 🩶🖤🩶 8mo
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vonnie862
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I did not fall in love with this book like many did, but I did like it. I highly enjoyed learning the etymology of languages and I really wanted to know how the book ended. However, I think I would have had a better experience reading the physical format because I found myself losing focus a few times with the audio.
3.5⭐️

#PopupReadathon @AmandaBlaze #authoramonth @Soubhiville
#BookspinBingo #8 @TheAromaofBooks

AmandaBlaze Nice review! 8mo
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 8mo
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Texreader
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#wondrousWednesday

1) I picked a rather obvious name 😃

2) Drive, crafting, laundry, clean house, play solitaire, or cook (for easy but time-consuming meal).

3) Tagged.

Eggs Are you Native Texan? I love that you cook 🧑‍🍳 8mo
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Maria_Pulver
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Bailed after 1/3 of the book: huge disappointment. There is an amazing world where words have power and translators are doing magic. But there is no action at all, the characters lack substance and the anti-colonial agenda is being pushed down the reader's throat with much force, but little understanding of nuances
#told_by_a_woman
#bookclub

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DHill
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I loved Yellowface so not sure why I‘m surprised that I‘m enjoying this so much but, I‘m really enjoying this dark academia novel. The footnote reading in the audio version though, not so much.

#AuthorAMonth
@Soubhiville

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vlwelser
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Tbh this was a bit of a slog but I very much appreciated all of the linguistics involved. The author clearly did so much research.

#AuthorAMonth @Soubhiville

#BookSpinBingo @TheAromaofBooks

Soubhiville Agreed, very heavily researched book I imagine. 8mo
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 8mo
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Melismatic
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Ultimately enjoyable, though the pacing in the first half leaves a lot to be desired. Would round up to 4 out of 5 stars. If you can push through to when the real story starts in the back half, I‘d say it‘s worth it. #AuthorAMonth

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Melismatic
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Final 100 pages left! The back half was/is much more exciting. Wish this pacing was more prevalent throughout. #AuthorAMonth

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Laughterhp
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Phew! Took me half the month but I finished! At the beginning, I really thought this book wasn‘t going to be for me. I don‘t care how words were created. 🤷🏻‍♀️. However, once it got going, it got pretty interesting. Especially towards the end!

It‘s been a while since I‘ve listened to such a long audiobook!

#authoramonth

Soubhiville Congrats! 8mo
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Texreader
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A treatise on translations; that‘s what this book feels like and I especially enjoyed the story positing itself as an intellectual history. Translations drive this alternative historical world about the English empire, literally giving power to silver, which gives power to the empire—at the expense of the empire‘s colonies. Oxford, where the translators and silver form the Tower of Babel, foreign-born students realize their calling is to the ⬇️

Texreader detriment of their homes, China, India, Haiti, etc. A student rebellion is born. The book dives deep into friendships—cohort Letty alone would be an excellent topic for a book club. The book also takes on economics (some of which I take issue with) and class warfare. What I didn‘t like: how the plot went awry with a murder and then the ending. There was so much that could have happened and instead these plot points felt like an easy way out. ⬇️ 8mo
Texreader I‘m very glad to have read it. I wasn‘t a big fan of the author‘s Poppy War book one. I‘m amazed the author can tell such different stories and unique world-building. I feel sometimes that fantasy authors can get in a rut even in different worlds. Not here. Quite an undertaking and done extremely well even if the Poppy War wasn‘t in my genre. #authoramonth @Soubhiville 8mo
Soubhiville Well said! 8mo
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Melismatic
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As I approach halfway thru this tome, I keep asking, where is this actually going? Feels like a long walk. #AuthorAMonth

julesG Oh, glad I'm not the only one 8mo
Soubhiville I thought it dragged… just posted my review today. 8mo
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Soubhiville
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I liked parts of this #AuthorAMonth book a lot, but it dragged quite a bit.

The good: the friendship between the 4 scholars, the idea of magic coming from the deep meaning of words across languages, the worldbuilding and imagery.

What didn‘t work for me: too much deep dive into academic ideas of history, science, etymology. How long it took to get through many plot points.

The ideas/themes here were really interesting, mostly it felt too long.

ShelleyBooksie Adorable snuggle party ♡ 8mo
AmyG Everyone looks tired today. So cute! ❤️ 8mo
dabbe 🖤🐾🐾🖤 8mo
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Texreader Great review. I‘m about to write mine and thought of dividing it in two parts as well, what I liked, what I didn‘t. 8mo
Soubhiville @Texreader thanks! It had such potential, I wanted to like it more. 8mo
Melismatic As I close in to the finale, I agree with all of your points. The back half really made me enjoy it more but I don‘t think it should have taken almost 300 pages to get cooking. 8mo
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Melismatic
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Checking in! I‘m about a third into Babel for #AuthorAMonth - it‘s admittedly slow going especially compared to Yellowface which I sped through. I am enjoying it but I get the criticism too. 🤷🏻‍♀️🥈

Soubhiville That looks really yummy! 8mo
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JenReadsAlot
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I enjoyed this more than I initially thought I would. #authoramonth @Soubhiville

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Bookwormjillk
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I‘m going to bail on this one for now. It‘s not bad. It just feels like more of a fall book and I can‘t face 7 more hours of it. Until we meet again Babel! I‘m going to try and hunt down something else for #AuthorAMonth and put this on hold for October.

dabbe #hailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 8mo
Lesliereadsalot I read to the end but wasn‘t crazy about it. 8mo
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lil1inblue
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Beautiful 🖤 9mo
Eggs Perfection 🖤❤️🩶🖤 9mo
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I‘m listening to this audiobook now for #authoramonth @Soubhiville

dabbe LOVED this one! 🤩 9mo
Texreader @dabbe I hope I will too. I‘m enjoying it so far. 9mo
marleed Oh I liked this! 9mo
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TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! Man, I haven't read The Neverending Story in years! 9mo
BarkingMadRead @TheAromaofBooks I‘ve never read it! I got that copy at a used bookstore in NOLA 9mo
TheAromaofBooks So when I was in probably 1st grade I went to a friend's birthday party and they played the movie there and it genuinely SCARRED ME FOR LIFE 😂 So it wasn't until college when another friend said... you know, you might actually like this as a book LOL and I did! It's an odd one... but honestly not as bizarre as the movie!! 9mo
5feet.of.fury I swear, some day I‘m going to finish The Witching Hour 9mo
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Pedrocamacho
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What a lovely read “Babel” is! It is a fantastic vehicle for discussing colonialism, racism, misogyny, and inequality. Kuang is so thoughtful about her characters and the story. Couldn‘t recommend it enough 😊

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jdiehr
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I was intrigued by the idea of a dark academia story revolving around a group of friends studying translation. I wasn't so sure about the fantasy element because, well, I'm not a fantasy person.

It all worked beautifully, and I LOVED this book about friendship, where we place our loyalty and what we stand for.

I thought this was brilliant 👏🏻

dabbe #metoo! 🤩😀🤗 9mo
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Centique
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I know im late to the party with this one but i finally got here. Ive rated it 5 stars because its completely unique, its masterfully done, and i feel like the last third took my head off! Its as if with Yellowface someone said to Kuang “write a 5 star contemporary novel about publishing that perfectly demonstrates appropriation” and on Babel “write a 5 star historical dark academia novel that demonstrates colonialism and capitalism” ⬇️

Centique Im going to be thinking about these characters for a long time. Kuang can really do complex characters and dysfunction in relationships so well. I need to go pick myself up off the floor now….. 10mo
Reggie Wow what a review! I still need to read it. 10mo
CarolynM I‘ve been resisting this but after such a stellar review from you I‘m going to have to stack it. 10mo
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LeahBergen Great review! 10mo
Centique @Reggie thank you 😘 it is a decent chunkster but worth it! 10mo
Centique @CarolynM there is one fantastical element in that a lot of the empire building is supported by this magical silverworking that the students are learning. I dont know if non-fantasy readers would find that a bit off-putting because its a huge part of the plot. 10mo
erzascarletbookgasm Haha great review! I‘ve been meaning to read this and your review just push it way further up :) 10mo
dabbe I couldn't agree more with what you wrote! 🖤🐾🖤 10mo
squirrelbrain Paula - I don‘t read fantasy but really liked this book, and it didn‘t put me off. @CarolynM 10mo
Centique @erzascarletbookgasm thank you 😘 Hope you enjoy it! 10mo
Centique @LeahBergen thank you Leah 😘 10mo
Centique @dabbe oh thank you! Its so good when we love the same books 😍 10mo
Centique @squirrelbrain phew! Im so glad to hear that! I can recommend it without qualms 😍 @CarolynM And i think it will probably help going in to know that the fantasy is quite contained to one element. Its not about to go dragons and wizards on you! 10mo
Rissreadswithcats I really enjoyed this one too! 9mo
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jdiehr
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Downloaded this on a whim before my big travel day and am really enjoying it ☺️ ✈️

Amor4Libros I loved it! 10mo
AmyG Wonderful book. Safe travels! 10mo
dabbe A fave! 🤩🤩🤩 10mo
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 🖤🩶🖤 11mo
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dabbe @Eggs 💙🩵💙 11mo
lil1inblue 🤩🤩🤩 11mo
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claripetrone
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Babel by R.F Kuang. 9,6/10 rating.

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katcalvin
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I‘ll just join the chorus of millions singing the praises of this brilliant, brilliant book. What an absolute genius and true gift. R.F. Kuang is a marvel.

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dabbe
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#2024Bracket
@Catsandbooks

BABEL again for the win! 🤩

TheSpineView It's a good book! 12mo
dabbe @TheSpineView It sure is! 12mo
Catsandbooks Awesome! 💚 12mo
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#2024Bracket
#march
@CSeydel

BABEL for this month's win. 😃