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L'uccello che girava le Viti del Mondo
L'uccello che girava le Viti del Mondo | Murakami Haruki,
"Vorrei dieci minuti del suo tempo", disse senza preamboli una voce di donna. Io sono piuttosto bravo a riconoscere le persone dalla voce, quella l per non l'avevo mai sentita. Murakami Haruki, L'uccello che girava le Viti del Mondo
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Rachel.Rencher
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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Went thrifting 🤍📚

Tamra Windup Bird is a great read! 1w
Meshell1313 Yes Divine Rivals!!! Great finds! 1w
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currentlyreadinginCO
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Mehso-so

Definitely an interesting storytelling style but idk, too much flesh for me

BarbaraBB Literally I guess, remembering the book 😱 2mo
perfectsinner That was my first ever Murakami 🧡 2mo
currentlyreadinginCO Mine as well! Not sure where to go from here, any recs? @perfectsinner 2mo
currentlyreadinginCO 😂😂 and also metaphorically now that I think about it @BarbaraBB 2mo
perfectsinner @currentlyreadinginCO Kafka on the Shore and Norwegian Wood are my personal favs 2mo
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Robotswithpersonality
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Mehso-so

Welcome to the (multiple) weekEND experience!
I'm introducing it that way as I need to frame this as both a book I ended up spending quite a lot of time with and an experience more than a narrative.
If I weight this against my regular patience levels a la Cloud Atlas, me liking this even a little bit doesn't make sense. And yet.
Basically once I managed to survive the first 200 pages of YIKES and okaaaaayy.... 1/?

Robotswithpersonality 2/? I was on board for when it really started to get - I feel like I need a more ethereal word than weird. Surreal?
Pretend you\'re a guy that has a sexual appreciation for women, an eye for fine tailoring and no real ambition in life, and once you found out your wife was missing, suspected your brother-in-law had something to do with it, so you decided to drop a whole lot of acid to find the answer and had a BAD trip. Is that the actual plot?
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Robotswithpersonality 3/? Not quite, but it\'s what the book FEELS like.
I can see the parallels primarily between Creta Kano\'s described experiences and Kumiko\'s alluded to and eventually mostly related experiences. The sense of some kind of tainting by Noburu Wataya, the discussion of a disturbing experience related to reproduction/abortion/childbirth, the sense that they would have lived a better life if their older sisters were present for more of their childhood.
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Robotswithpersonality 4/? Familial loss and familial apathy. Other physical descriptions lead me to believe that every woman or female, even the underage ones, is an allusion to Kumiko, the protagonist\\\'s wife (which raises the question of Malta and Creta\\\'s actual existence as more than just a subconscious aid/parallel).
Similarly, any of the many side tangents that are more or a lot less related to the main narrative have parallels in Kumiko or Okada\\\'s experience.
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Robotswithpersonality 5/? Especially trauma leading to forms of numbness alternating with pain. The mark, the bat, borne or wielded more than once: darker, aggressive power required in order to defeat a greater evil. If one infers a parallel dream world to the real world, than these are echoes and/or the way things manifest when the protagonist drifts into the parallel world.
Okada seeing all women as his wife to a greater or lesser degree, may be part
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Robotswithpersonality 6/? of an obsession borne out of her continued unresolved absence but, it all feels a little distant because the reader isn\'t ever provided with a strong sense of this husband and wife\'s close relationship. You get some difficult and awkward moments and some banal ones, but in contrast to something like The Raw Shark Texts, where even in flashes I felt how strongly the main character missed the woman in his life 2mo
Robotswithpersonality 7/? (which I can no longer remember if she was his wife or girlfriend), while Okada does say he misses her and loves her, things are so surreal that I don\'t get the sense of their strong ties, his need to find her propels the plot, but as coolly as their relationship is covered, they could have been roommates, it doesn\'t work as well to maintain the tension for the reader.
I wasn\'t invested in Okada finding Kumiko so much as I was invested
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Robotswithpersonality 8/? in the strange journey he eventually embarked on and solving the mysteries - which one could easily argue the subsequent explanations were a little thin on the ground.
While I do appreciate the snippet of agency provided to Kumiko in her role in her brother\'s demise, and the bit of hope provided for May Kasahara building a rewarding life herself in the end, I feel like the biggest warning this book needs slapped on it (and the list of
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Robotswithpersonality 9/? content warnings is EXTENSIVE) is misogyny. That 90s casual sexualization of all women as the primary way for a man to interact/evaluate her. The heavy emphasis on virginity/purity contrasted with defilement, seeming self-defilement by promiscuity or defilement by men via sexual assault.
Yes, Murakami often skirts the line by insisting the defilement is mental, and I wouldn\'t want to presume to put words in the mouth of a survivor of
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Robotswithpersonality 10/? of psychological abuse, (in this case a mystical form?) but there\'s some very loaded langauge being used and I think a modern publication would phrase it differently.
Oh, and then there\'s two different women who are basically described as frigid until one specific man makes them feel desire/sexual pleasure almost against their will. I don\'t want to kink shame anybody\'s consensual roleplay, but that narrative has some powerfully negative
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Robotswithpersonality 11/? associations along the lines of \'you only haven\'t liked it before because of blah blah, I\'ll make you like it.\' Major yikes. 🫣😬

Despite the bad and because of the intriguing:
Will I read another Murakami? Yes. Because if I survived this without undue psychic damage, and was regularly amused by how he chose to word things in such an unusual and detailed manner, aka, if I actually like his writing style, then chances are I\'ll like his other
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Robotswithpersonality 12/? books regardless of the subject matter as I did with Strange Library. I\'m just along for the ride!
Can I recommend them? Hey, if you read all that and still want to try it: \'ye have been warned,\'have at it. 🤷🏼‍♂️
⚠️SA, self harm, suicidal ideation, attempted suicide, suicide, forced prostitution, torture, body horror, animal death, domestic abuse, gore, PTSD, prisoner of war experiences
Whew, that was a long one. Enjoy all the thoughts!😅
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Robotswithpersonality
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Informative title. 🫤

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Robotswithpersonality
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Ugh, the tactile sensation of job dissatisfaction.
So very grateful I don't have to wear or own blazers anymore. 😖

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pdxannie
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Mehso-so

Parts of this book I couldn‘t put down but other parts were so boring I wanted to give it up. I‘m not satisfied with the ending, I‘m not satisfied with the weird hotel/well drama, I don‘t know. I feel like this book could have been great.

birdie_gw Never read this author and don‘t plan to - have heard such good things about some titles but just can‘t bring myself to approach! 7mo
pdxannie @birdie_gw it was extra long but if it had been edited down to an appropriate length I think it could have been great. But yeah, I can‘t say I recommend. And I don‘t think I‘ll pick up anything else by him unless it comes with a write-up from someone I adore 7mo
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Yuki_Onna
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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#ItTakesAllKinds @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Eggs
#War

Yep, I wrapped the book, as I lugged it around for months while I was reading it 😅

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Perfect 👍🏻 8mo
Eggs Well done 👍🏼 8mo
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Parvez
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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Mini book haul. TBR pile just keeps on getting big, but can't resist Murakami.

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maximusje
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Pickpick

In english: “the Wind up bird chronicle”. I think I‘ve been reading this book for almost two years on and off. Every time coming back, it picks up like I had never left. Murakami took four years to write this novel and while the main character is searching for his lost cat and wife, you can almost feel the writer searching for a way to tell his story and find a way to conclude it. And with part 3 he did so brilliantly.

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GatheringBooks
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Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 💛💛💛 2y
Eggs Well done 👍🏼 2y
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Lukerey-Doo

Ok just signing in to report I've finally made it to the 51% mark with Haruki Murakami's The Wind-Bird Chronicle. This book has been "put down" for the better part of a year. But now that I'm in a better head space, I want to see where this story leads... Until then...

Lukerey-Doo Ok now 52% already. And this during my work lunch break. Should be a walk in the park! 2y
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AnneCecilie
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Pickpick

I have no idea what I read, but it kept me entertained and I finished so I‘ll give it a pick.

One day the cat disappears, and Okada‘s wife get in contact with someone to get the cat back. So begins this novel, that takes the reader on a ride/ adventure.

In between all the craziness, I did actually learn something about WWII from Japan‘s viewpoint.

#foodandlit #Japan
The first third is my #BookSpin for August

Sapphire I love Murakami 2y
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! 2y
Kenyazero I think it‘s pretty cool that largely because the WWII stuff (I don‘t remember if this comes up in the text) doesn‘t usually get talked about in Japanese history classes, Murakami included it in this book (like many similarly stark topics in the US and other places). At least, that‘s what our professor explained (she was one of the Japanese professors, and taught the Japanese literature and culture course as well). 2y
PaperbackPirate I love this book and Murakami! Glad you liked it too! 🐈 2y
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jimfields3
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Mehso-so

I‘ve become quite a fan of Murakami, but this one misses the mark for me. It‘s rather confusing, and I think it could be significantly shorter. I just finished reading it s few minutes ago, so as I continue to mull it over I may need to amend my evaluation.

Another #doublespin marked off the TBR list at least. @TheAromaofBooks

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! 2y
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jimfields3
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“Once it has taken root in your heart, hatred is the most difficult thing in the world to shake off.” #harukimurakami

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jimfields3
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I almost want to learn Japanese to experience Murakami‘s words firsthand, but from what I‘m reading Jay Rubin is a fantastic writer in his own right.

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yoavshai
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#BookCoverChallenge
Day 224.
Here I will note 365 books (or as many as I will have before I get tired) that have shaped my taste in literature. No explanations, no reviews. Just the cover of the book.
I do not challenge anyone. You are all welcome to take part.

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MayJasper
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#JulyJourneys Day 13 #Japan
@Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @Eggs

Some great reads here. I suppose I would say The Wind-up Bird Chronicle wasn't my favourite but it certainly made a strong lasting impression on me.

Eggs 🇯🇵❤️🌞 3y
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MayJasper
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Kumiko Okada, the missing wife, is #maddening, disappearing without explanation. She could have left a note!
#MayCharacters Day 18
@Eggs @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

Tamra Loved this one! 4y
Eggs Perfect choice 🙌🏻📚🐦 4y
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TheBookBurrowKeeper
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I wasn't planning on buying a Murakami book but when I saw this edition, I knew I had to get it. This is going to be my first Murakami read and I'm kind of excited and nervous at the same time. Have you guys read this? Is it a nice introduction to Murakami's works? 😊

BarbaraBB It‘s his best imo 🤍 4y
TheBookBurrowKeeper @BarbaraBB that's awesome. Excited to read it. Thanks! 4y
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Kaag
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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Pickpick

Meet Toru Okada, our unemployed narrator who keeps a fine home and lives a rather simple uneventful life. But his cat is missing. He winds up a creepy walled-off alley looking for his cat. In comes young May Kasahara to ask if he‘s a pervert or something. And we‘re off....

Murakami has the ability to capture moments, feelings, and complex issues with unique precision. I love it all, his characters, their stories, the magical, even the sex.

suvata Murakami is hands-down my favorite 😻 author! 4y
Kaag Only read three, Kafka on the Shore and Norwegian Wood being the others, but he‘s right near the top already for me. 4y
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vanexana
Mehso-so

Dovrei rileggerlo

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ju.ca.no
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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Sunday snuggles and reading time❤️ Kirby is such a baby🥰🥰

Palimpsest Aww, how sweet! 4y
Meaw_catlady Kirby ! 😻😻😻 4y
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rabbitprincess Awwww cuddlebug 😻😻 4y
Elizabeth2 So sweet! 💗 4y
cariashley Aww gorgeous kitty 😻 4y
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ju.ca.no
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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#20in4 recap: finished two books and am 700 pages into this one! Didn‘t manage to finish 20 hours, but I‘m still happy with my 16 ☺️.

Thanks for hosting @Andrew65 🤗

Readerann 16 hours is great! 👏 4y
Andrew65 That‘s fantastic 👏👏👏🙌🍾🥂🍾🥂🎉🥳 Thanks for playing along. 4y
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ju.ca.no
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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Day 3 of #20in4 is coming to an end for me - it‘s really time for bed😢 I‘m 14 hours in the readathon and 600 pages into this Reread. I am looonging to finish the book - but 400 more pages is a bit too much for a late sunday night😅😅 I‘m looking foward to tomorrow‘s lunchbreak though 😅

Mitch It‘ll make the work day ( especially a Monday) be much more enjoyable! 4y
ju.ca.no @Mitch yes indeed😍 especially since I‘m working from home right now- so I don‘t have to carry that chunkster anywhere and don‘t have to talk to any collegues instead of reading😅😂 4y
Buechersuechtling Oh, please, tell me: Is it worth giving this book another try❓ Years ago, many years ago, in my Murakami-phase, this was the last book by him I read because I needed to bail on this one. It was too weird for me with this water well and everything. I just didn‘t see where it all would go and what it all would mean to tell me. But, is it worth it❓ Should I give it another chance❓ 4y
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ju.ca.no @Buechersuechtling well, it is indeed weird and there‘s a lot of things going on, which seem to be very random. Did you enjoy other Murakami books? 4y
Buechersuechtling @ju.ca.no Yeees. „Naokos Lächeln“, „Gefährliche Geliebte“, „Kafka am Stand“, „Sputnik Sweetheart“ ? 4y
ju.ca.no @Buechersuechtling I think Kafka am Strand is similar in it‘s weirdness though - so if you‘ve enjoyed that one, you might want to give it another try🤗 4y
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ju.ca.no
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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I wanted to read but Yoshi had other plans😅

DinoMom Your cat is beautiful! Also mine does the same thing 4y
ju.ca.no @DinoMom the entire apartment full of comfy places but they sleep on the books😅😅 4y
TheKidUpstairs Beautiful kitty! 4y
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ephemeralwaltz My first Murakami! 4y
ju.ca.no @ephemeralwaltz and such a good one too😍 I‘m enjoying it even more now, than I did the first time❤️ 4y
ephemeralwaltz @ju.ca.no oh it must be such a good reread. So much going on I‘m not sure I remember half of it 😂 4y
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ju.ca.no
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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After finishing an amazing book last night I usually would fall in a small slump- luckily I can start a newly published version of one of my favourite Murakamis❤️ I think I last read it about 7 years ago- so it‘s about time for a reread! Also the last version was translated from english- while this one has been translated directly from japanese! すばらしい❤️
I can‘t wait to dive into Murakami‘s wonderful world again! 1004 pages of happiness for me😍

BarbaraBB I wonder if you‘ll notice differences between the two translations! Interesting! 4y
ju.ca.no @BarbaraBB me too!🤔 4y
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ju.ca.no
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle | Haruki Murakami
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Finally got my new version of one of my favourite Murakami books! First time it has been translated directly from japanese - the older versions are all translated from english. It‘s a 1000 pages and I‘m excited😍🤩

Also: Kirby likes it as his new pillow in case you needed to see another kitten @julesG 😝

squirrelbrain We always need to see another kitten! 🐱 4y
julesG 🙈🙈🙈 So cute. 4y
MayJasper Yea to kittens 👏 4y
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ChaoticMissAdventures
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Pickpick

Many characters, a distinctly feminist leaning that I was not expecting.

I love surrealist fiction as long as it is done well, and this is perfection.

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emilyhaldi
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I loved the tagged book so much that I've quickly collected some more Murakami. Now the question is- which one to start next?!

Reviewsbylola Damn those are pretty. 4y
IamIamIam I just had flashbacks of 1Q84... that book broke me and I never finished another book just because afterwards!!! Lol, I do love your editions, though! 4y
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Cathythoughts The first one I read & loved was 4y
BookNAround I really liked Norwegian Wood and What We Talk About When We Talk About Running but neither of these are all that similar to his other works. 😂 4y
Mtroiano I‘ve loved all of his books I‘ve read! 4y
BarbaraBB Nothing beats The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle but if the ones you have there, I think this one comes close (especially the first two parts) 4y
emilyhaldi @Hazel2019 an employee in the bookstore where I was debating Murakami influenced me to buy that one- said it was by far his favorite! 4y
emilyhaldi @BookNAround I've heard many good things about Running!! Would I like it even if I detest running myself?? 😆 4y
emilyhaldi @BarbaraBB well shoot, I was hesitant to pick that huge chunkster next, but I just might! 🤓 Have you read them all? 4y
BookNAround @emilyhaldi I don‘t know. It‘s more philosophical than running related but I did read it when I was running so I enjoyed those aspects. 4y
BarbaraBB Yes I did. You‘ll be pulled in immediately, such good story lines. For me it went on a bit too long but I loved the first two books. No need to let them scare you off! 4y
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kyraa
Pickpick

Brilliant

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Rachael_reads
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#japanesefiction

Japanese fiction recommendations?

Chelsea.Poole I like your setup ☺️💦 4y
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Rachael_reads @Megabooks Thanks!!! I'll definitely get those. I've been thinking about those two for a while. :) 4y
cathysaid If you like crime fiction, Keigo Higashino 4y
cathysaid And non crime fiction, Hiromi Kawakami as well as Arikawa (edited) 4y
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sarahlandis
Mehso-so

So many friends adore Murakami and have read so many books by him... but they are just ok to me. I enjoyed Kafka.. but this book.. ugh. I like the idea of multiple story lines coming together as something whole at the end, but there were so so so many characters and story lines that it seemed overdone. And all the monologues!!! Like I just didn‘t care enough. There were some redeeming parts and characters (May) but this book was just ok to me!

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Freespirit
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Hi @Buechersuechtling @Cosmos_Moon thanks for the tag.
🦉Loved this book but it‘s not a genre I read often
🇭🇷I‘d love to travel Eastern Europe...the Croatian coast, Czech, Hungary...I had plans for a birthday trip next year but we shall see🤭
🌿Grateful for my vegetable garden and the baby guinea fowls that hatched yesterday
📚Please play along friends
#ThankfulThursday
@Buechersuechtling we will have to meet up if you come to Australia😊

Tanisha_A I'd love to visit Eastern Europe too! Sounds fantastic 😍 4y
Buechersuechtling I said, I want to go for my 50th birthday – hoping that by then I‘ll have the money for it. 😁 4y
Freespirit I think it would be an amazing holiday @Tanisha_A ❤️ 4y
Freespirit It is an expensive holiday @Buechersuechtling because it's so far away! Hope you make it one day 4y
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emilyhaldi
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Escaping to this alternate universe for a bit... 💫

HannaPolkadots Such a nice picture! I love those flowers ❤ 5y
BarbaraBB I love your house! 5y
emilyhaldi Thanks!! @BarbaraBB the living room has come together with the built-ins and fireplace. And flowers always help! I seem to remember you have some amazing shelves as well somewhere as well... 😍 5y
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BarbaraBB I do but I don‘t have your style. I love the vase and the flowers and the tray and how it all comes together! 5y
Reviewsbylola Wow, absolutely stunning. 🥰 5y
emilyhaldi More sunny meadows @Reviewsbylola 😊 5y
LeahBergen Beautiful!! 😍😍 5y
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emilyhaldi
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Weekend reading.
I bought the tagged book after Patti Smith raved about it in M Train. This is my first time reading Murakami and I actually think I‘m enjoying the dream-like rhythm... feels appropriate for my current state of reality.
Also hoping to start this months #NYRBbookclub selection and the #catherbuddyread 📚

Cinfhen LOVE the flowers 💗😍 5y
Reviewsbylola Still waiting on my Taylor to arrive. I‘ve only read one Murakami and didn‘t love it. 5y
Reviewsbylola Never mind, I lied. I haven‘t read him. But I don‘t think I‘d like him. 😂 5y
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BarbaraBB I did read him, a few, and this one is my favorite. I hope you‘ll love it too! 5y
BarbaraBB ... there‘s one scene in this book that will haunt me forever. You‘ll know what I mean once you get there 😱 5y
emilyhaldi @BarbaraBB ...just got there 😳 wow. had to take a bit of a break and let that one sink in! 5y
BarbaraBB I always wonder how someone can make up things like this? So horrible. But still I loved this book. 5y
sisilia @BarbaraBB @emilyhaldi I remember that scene 🥴 5y
Liz_M Uh-oh, Game of Hide and Seek looks thick in this picture. I should probably start reading it.... 5y
emilyhaldi Lol it is a bit thicker! @liz_m but a fairly quick read so far... I'm engrossed at the moment! 5y
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Meaw_catlady
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#Ispy books with animals on the cover ! Thanks for the tag @Megabooks
I am excited to tag @Branwen and @DaveGreen7777 and say I spy books with dragons on the cover ! 🐉

Megabooks Oooo!!! Those are good ones!! Thanks for playing!! 💕💕 (edited) 5y
Branwen Omg! This looks like so much fun! 😀🐉💕 5y
DaveGreen7777 Oooh, good pick! Thanks for the tag! 😀🏷 5y
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Skygoddess1
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Mehso-so

This was a weird book. I listened to it on audio and I feel like the only reason I made it through the book was because it was on audio, and yet I can‘t help but wonder if I‘d read the physical book I would‘ve followed all the randomness better? Probably not. For the most part I enjoyed this rambling tale of a man and his interactions with others, but I feel so lost. This may be a book that I‘ll have to try reading again later. #AuthorAMonth

Soubhiville Logged, that‘s 10📚 5y
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BookishRedhead
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Pickpick

A story with different POV.
Enjoyable and of a little werid because Murakami.

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Joy_Reads
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Pickpick

4/5 ✩
Reading Murakami books would always leave me with more questions than answers. In a good way though because it allows me to think and come up with answers of my own. The story, same as other Murakami novels, is very easy to read but such a complicated mix of the real and surreal world. It took me a while to finish the book but it's worth the time.

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Joy_Reads
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Still reading this one. I actually started it a few months back but was not able to focus on reading because of our move to our new home. Now that we kinda settled, hoping to finish it soon! #TheWindUpBirdChronicle #HarukiMurakami

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Reading goal 2020: Read all Murakami books!
Haruki Murakami is my favourite author and i have read Kafka on the shore(the best!!), Hard Boiled Wonderland and The End of the World, Desire, Men Without Women, South Of the Border West of the Sun, Norwegian Wood by him. And reading the rest is my top priority this year.
I also wish to do the popsugar challenge 2020 but I'm not too worried if i dont complete it because I'm also busy with college.

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Kenyazero
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Pickpick

I read this one for a Japanese culture class. It was a very fun, often whimsical read, and our professor used it as an example of history that gets left out of Japan's textbooks (every country seems to have these types of omissions). I really enjoyed the symbolism, and the translator's style. I wish the wife had been allowed to be more of a character. #whimsical #spirit #spiritworld #magic?

LauraJ Female characters are not Murakami‘s strength, but I love his books anyway. 5y
Kenyazero @LauraJ I started wondering that as I started IQ84! I haven't read much of his work yet, but I've enjoyed what I've read. 5y
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kimalicious
Mehso-so

Magical prose and loved part one. Got a bit post and distracted in parts 2-3...

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Dostoyes
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I read this on a rec, that it was life-changing, but was disappointed. I‘d love your thoughts as I can‘t articulate why I didn‘t like it. In part I didn‘t understand it but after reading multiple reviews I think I do but just didn‘t like it. I wish I could better articulate a review. If you liked it, could you please share why? Or what you learned? And if the opposite, any color you can share? Thanks!

BarbaraBB I liked it a lot because for me he is a great storyteller with a huge imagination. I love how he interweaves magical realism in a complete plausible way. And I loved the plot of this specific book and the super scary passage set in the desert/highlands. 5y
Dostoyes Thanks for your perspective! I appreciate it. 5y
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