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#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheSixNapoleons

Hi, Sherlockians~
As always, great discussion on Saturday! Our next SH read, “(TAo) The Six Napoleons“, is linked below (spoiler alert). Discussion will be this Saturday, 11/23, and will be led by @Cuilin. Enjoy your Sunday!

Link: https://shorturl.at/Ni9Gt

Librarybelle Thank you! 3h
dabbe @Librarybelle YW! ❣️ 3h
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Librarybelle That was funny! 😂 2d
Daisey This part of the story made me laugh out loud. 🤣 1d
CogsOfEncouragement Yes! That was so funny!

I didn't believe W would ever go to the police station to turn SH in if he refused to bring W with him to burgle Milverton's home. Silly threat. But maybe SH, by saying W couldn't go, was just getting W to beg to go break the law. LOL
I think SH wanted W there all along. @Librarybelle @Daisey
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dabbe @Librarybelle Just like @Daisey, I actually laughed out loud! 😂 23h
dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement And that reminds me of another favorite line. When Watson insists on going, Sherlock replies, “Well, well, my dear fellow, be it so. We have shared this same room for some years, and it would be amusing if we ended by sharing the same cell.“ 🤩 23h
CogsOfEncouragement @dabbe lol That was another good one! 7h
dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement 🤩😂😘 4h
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Librarybelle I groaned as Holmes so lightly dismisses the poor maid and her affections. Not surprising, but still worthy of a groan! As to the “noble” lady and what she does…this is the part about Holmes‘ version of justice I referred to in the first question. Though, in this case, it could be construed as an eye for an eye, I suppose… 2d
CogsOfEncouragement Yeah, I flinched at finding out SH - in disguise - had romanced the maid into an engagement as he used her for info on the household. Then in one night she has no employment (maybe released from a horrible position) and her fiancé will disappear as if he never existed. Because he didn't. For the rest, I was entertained by their lawlessness as W was.
Also - SH knows how to woo, even though he is not inclined to marry. Very talented. @librarybelle
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CogsOfEncouragement Oh! I was skimming to answer question 4 and found this -
SH: However, I rejoice to say that I have a hated rival, who will certainly cut me out the instant my back in turned. What a splendid night it is!
So the maid has another suiter. She accepted Escott's (SH's) proposal, but she has another gentleman in love with her that she will hopefully be happy with. I didn't remember this important detail. We don't have to be mad. lol
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Cuilin That was a quick romance. It does make us wonder about Sherlock‘s romantic skills???? lol 1d
dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement Ooh, I'm so glad you found this! I feel a little better now about Sherlock's shenanigans! 😂 23h
CatLass007 Even though Agatha would have ended up with her other suitor, I really didn‘t like Sherlock‘s cavalier attitude. He isn‘t just misanthropic, he‘s misogynistic. 20h
dabbe @CatLass007 🎯!!! 5h
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Librarybelle Good question! I find him repulsive, to be honest, more than evil or clever. Moriarty is the more clever of the two, in my opinion. 2d
CogsOfEncouragement I kept thinking that society's reaction to whatever romance a woman had previously to meeting her eventual fiancé often gave him the power to blackmail. I'm sure some of these people were up to no good even by today's ideals and didn't want their misdeeds exposed, but I think many are things that would not give anyone any concern in 2024. Holding women to a standard men are not held to is always irritating. @Librarybelle 1d
Cuilin I was truly anxious reading this. I thought Charles was going to get the better of Sherlock!! 😱 but a woman saved the day!!! Pew pew. 1d
dabbe I don't think I've read a Sherlock story to date where more time was devoted by Sherlock to describe this despicable person. He spends more time describing Milverton than he did explaining Moriarty. And even though he doesn't murder these victims, per se, he does murder their chances of happiness if they can't pay him what he wants. 23h
dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement Oh, yes. Men will just have their fun, you know, but ladies ... well, we have a whole other list of standards for you. 🙄 23h
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Librarybelle This one seemed very short! We get to see Holmes and his thoughts on justice…Milverton sounded odious. 2d
kwmg40 @dabbe I think I accidentally got put on this tag list. I'm one of your Shardlakians, not Sherlockians. I'd love to join but have a few too many buddy reads on the go right now! 😄 2d
dabbe @kwmg40 Well, there's a reason I'm not Sherlock Holmes or Matthew Shardlake. 😂 So sorry about that! 🤗 2d
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kwmg40 @dabbe No problem, and I‘m sure a lot of us aspire to be like Holmes or Shardlake! 😁 2d
eeclayton One thing that bugs me is how they didn't realise something was off when they smelled the cigar smoke all over the house 🤔 1d
kelli7990 I liked this story. 1d
CogsOfEncouragement @eeclayton Good point, and absolutely no noise from the bedroom. I was surprised SH didn't confirm all was to plan. 1d
Cuilin Quick yet exciting!! 1d
dabbe @Librarybelle I think this is one of his shortest ones. Either I'm getting better and better at Victorian writing styles, or this one read very quickly! 😂 23h
dabbe @eeclayton Yeah, how could he be asleep with all that smoke? Definite clue there! 23h
dabbe @kelli7990 🎯!!! 23h
dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement SH didn't seem at his best on this one, but it was fun to see him turn into a burglar! 🤩 23h
dabbe @Cuilin Yes! 23h
dabbe It might just be me, but I LOVED that the noble lady kicked some serious ass! Finally, a Victorian woman who goes balls out and rids herself of her enemy. And she kept firing at him until all the bullets were used! Wowza! 🤩

Wow. Should I be that happy about a murder? Or killing? Which is it? 🤔
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CatLass007 @kwmg40 I‘m glad you were accidentally included in our group. Now I can add Matthew Shardlake to the extensive, but apparently not extensive enough, list of sleuths I should investigate. 20h
CatLass007 @dabbe She was great, wasn‘t she?! 20h
kwmg40 @CatLass007 Do consider joining the #ShardlakeBR! The series is great. 19h
CatLass007 @kwmg40 Thanks. I‘m going to give the buddy read a pass for now. I feel a little in over my head with buddy reads right now. But I‘ll check out the thread and see what‘s up. 19h
AnishaInkspill I hope to read this in the next few days 🙂 14h
dabbe @kwmg40 🤩🤩🤩 5h
dabbe @CatLass007 I know the feeling! 🧡🍁🤎 5h
dabbe @AnishaInkspill 🧡🍁🤎 5h
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#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#CharlesAugustusMilverton

Hi, Sherlockians~
As always, great discussion on Saturday! Our next SH read, “(TAo) Charles Augustus Milverton“, is linked below (spoiler alert). Discussion will be this Saturday, 11/16, and will be led by @dabbe. Happy Monday!

Link: https://shorturl.at/2aBv0

Librarybelle Thanks! 6d
dabbe @Librarybelle YW! 🧡 6d
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The Adventure of Black Peter | Arthur Conan Doyle, Sir
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Librarybelle It was an odd statement about killing versus murdering someone—based on the intent. I‘ve never thought of it that way…another thing to ponder. It seemed odd to me that Holmes let the inspector arrest the wrong man, only later to tell the inspector it was wrong. But, Holmes said a couple of times he did not have all of the facts of the case. Still seems strange that he appeared to be in agreement initially. 1w
CogsOfEncouragement Hmmm, it was self defense, right? It was definitely more force than necessary, but maybe if one gets so comfortable using a harpoon maybe one loses sight of how dramatic it is to use it on a man with murder in his eyes?

I felt SH knew in that moment he couldn't convince Hopkins that it wasn't Neligan, he needed to gather the convincing evidence for Hopkins to see his mistake. Neligan was not in comfort, but would be okay for another day or so.
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dabbe I also think Holmes was ticked off at Neligan for not telling the entire truth, which could be why he let him go to jail for a bit. I also don't know if I take Hopkins word that it was self-defense; he could just as easily been the first to grab the harpoon and then have Carey pull the knife after. We'll never know totally because Carey is dead. Perhaps kill means just to end a life, while murder implies absolute intent. 1w
CogsOfEncouragement @dabbe Interesting point that maybe SH was annoyed with Neligan. Let him learn to not provide partial info that doesn‘t add up to the clues left at the scene. 1w
dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement I think SH in the past has even let the bad guy go (if he wasn't a murderer) as long as he was honest with his story. I swear, if Sherlock asked me to tell the story and leave nothing out, I'd sit up straighter in my chair and say, “Yes, sir!“ 😂 1w
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Librarybelle Watson brings up examples of this, and yet we‘ve also seen cases that the client is clearly wealthy. We‘ve also seen cases that involve the lower classes of society. It‘s an interesting thought by Watson. I‘m still thinking about it. 1w
CogsOfEncouragement I feel like SH is there for the puzzle and not the purse. One that stands out to me right now is the governess that he helps, Watson lets us know that she ended up as a head of a good school - telling the reader without telling the reader that SH must have made this happen as she was unable to get a better job than the governess job previously, though she was too bright for it. @Librarybelle 1w
dabbe Agree 💯 with @Librarybelle and @CogsofEncouragement. The case has to be interesting enough for Holmes to take it--no matter who the client is. We've seen him take on all kinds and types of cases as we are at the 29th short story and the 3rd novel! 27 stories and 1 novel to go! 🤩 1w
AnishaInkspill I‘m left with the impression Holmes takes on other cases by how he interacts with others, but I‘ve read only 2 so far 5d
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Librarybelle I agree. Holmes‘ method of deduction is an art. Yes, it‘s observation, but the way he does it is an art form onto itself. In this story, he creates a position to lure the murderer out. 1w
CogsOfEncouragement Watson greatly admires SH. This friendship is part of what makes these stories so fun for me. I tend to agree with Watson, even though SH has his faults, I admire the artistry. I wasn't at my best with this one and only saw how all the pieces fit together after, but I thought the clues we had for this one were pretty good. 1w
dabbe This one was quite grotesque for me. The picture in my edition included Holmes trying to stab the pig. 😑 And that seemed to be the big clue that SH deducted--that only an extremely strong man could have killed Peter with a harpoon, not the wimpy Neligan--whose dad HAD to have been involved in the bank crimes--even though the 10-year-old Neligan wanted to believe he was totally innocent. 1w
AnishaInkspill this is an interesting question, I'm thinking yes and no. Yes, because Holmes has that level of abstract thinking that bypasses others (example here, Hopkins and the footprint, and later the notebook). No, because art is about creating, or for me it‘s about creating, and here Holmes is not creating he is deducing. 5d
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The Sign of Four | Arthur Conan Doyle
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Last book completed in October. I think what I enjoyed more was Watson relationship with Miss Morstan (no spoilers So sad to see Holmes in drug dependence. Those first pages were hard because no one like to see another human being in that trap, sick world. As expected, Holmes will solve the mystery by using a deduction method. 3/3.5⭐️

Gissy #HauntedShelf #FreightClub @Jadames2024

Other read 10 pts
Hours read 5 x 10 pts = 50
Readathons 6 x 10 = 60 pts
#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Dabbe @Cuilin
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#FrightFestbingo (classic)
#GottaCatch‘emAll (greed)
#AfterDarkBingo (:secret community)
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