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Andrea313
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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I apologize in advance for being flip. Today's chapter is a really hard read and yet all I could think of was my very first pop culture exposure to ECT, the terrifying movie Return to Oz. Somehow a bunch of adults thought that making a movie where Dorothy undergoes shock therapy would be GREAT for kids! Anyway, all this to say, ECT is a horror no matter where you meet it- in a movie theatre age 5 or in a beautiful novel at the age of 17 or 40+.

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BarkingMadRead
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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Librarybelle Definitely a hard chapter to read today. 20h
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Bookwormjillk Yup, a toughie. 19h
kwmg40 Agree with everyone here. This was difficult to read. 19h
mcctrish Does the dr even know who she is ? How much of his medical practice is for profit ? The mom and her “I knew you weren‘t that kind of girl” not “that was fucking terrifying I should have turned you right around when we got here” 19h
Cuilin I got halfway through this chapter and put the book down. I don‘t think I can read this right now. I‘m not in the right headspace or something. 18h
Cuilin @mcctrish oh the mom, she made me so angry. 😠 18h
ElizaMarie That mother!!! Anyway my heart goes out for our girl. She is struggling 😞 15h
willaful I'm tempted not to finish as well. 15h
CogsOfEncouragement I‘m not mad at the mom. I feel like she is worried about her daughter, and this is the medical help of the time. She doesn‘t understand, she wants her daughter better, she is relieved that Esther has said something to allow her to believe she has snapped out of it. Her mom is trying to help. Our mom‘s thought pouring hydrogen peroxide on our scraped knees was helping. 14h
dabbe So hard to read these last two chapters. It's even harder when you know it's Plath who wrote it. 😞 14h
Clare-Dragonfly Oof, definitely hard to read. And unfortunately quite relatable (from my memories—I‘m doing emotionally well these days, thank goodness). It seems like all the electric shock “therapy” did was get her moving, without improving her mental state at all. 12h
TheAromaofBooks @CogsOfEncouragement - I feel bad for the mom, too. This is a time when people didn't understand really even the concept of depression. If you feel sad, stop feeling sad. Her mom is doing what the doctor says, but has no basis to know that what he is saying is complete BS. She knows something is wrong with Esther, but doesn't have any tools to help her. She's struggling in the dark, too. 10m
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Andrea313
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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Obviously Esther eventually has a HUGE effing reason to dislike Dr. Gordon, but at first, it's all about the vibes (ok, ok, and a large helping of mental illness). We see her negative symptoms become more intense, neglecting her own self-care and experiencing an uptick in suspicion of people around her. It's a tough chapter made worse by Dr. Gordon's prescription of shock treatment. Hold onto your hats, folks...

TheBookHippie I‘m a vibes person. So yes. I read this and was so angry as a young person. Still was on reading a few years ago was just 😵‍💫. (edited) 1d
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BarkingMadRead
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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Cuilin I‘m not sure I want to read anymore but I will. It‘s triggering something. Can you get secondhand melancholy from a book? 2d
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ElizaMarie The part - “It seemed silly to wash one day when I would only have to wash again the next. It made me tired just to think of it.“ - Made me so so sad for her!

@Cuilin I feel a bit of the blahs too after reading this chapter.
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BarkingMadRead @Cuilin @ElizaMarie for sure! It‘s gloomy and snowy here in SC and she‘s definitely got me feeling the blues 2d
mcctrish This might not be the best book for February blahs - I went outside for the first time in days today. I was putting on a bit of a protest against winter and left to my own devices I could have held out longer but my husband was grousing that we had no apples left for his lunch. Or bananas. Or berries. Anyways I went to the grocery store and I survived. I feel Esther‘s pain. Adulting is hard. I don‘t think electric shock is the answer 2d
BarkingMadRead @mcctrish we have like zero food in our house 🤣 I have hated the grocery store ever since Covid, I‘m scarred for life 2d
mcctrish @BarkingMadRead I want to know why the cashiers don‘t bag groceries for you anymore?! It just makes me lose my mind with rage! I‘m spending $260 on groceries in a store, I could go anywhere, I‘ve chosen this one, appreciate my business UGH 2d
BarkingMadRead @mcctrish you need to move to SC 🤣 they bag your groceries and will push your cart to the car and unload them too 2d
willaful @mcctrish They found out how much they could get away with during lockdown. 🤬 I'll never forget the gas station that had closed down its public bathrooms “for your safety“ but of course didn't require masks. Security theater, so much of it.

This was definitely a depressing chapter. Esther seems pretty seriously mentally ill to me, but damn, shock treatment is a lot before trying something else, *anything* else!
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mcctrish @willaful or how little 😡 2d
Bookwormjillk This chapter was really hard to take. 2d
dabbe How does this doc only see her TWICE before recommending shock therapy? Was that the 1st answer in the 60s? A very difficult chapter to read. She reminds me in so many ways of Holden Caulfield. 😞 2d
Ruthiella @mcctrish The supermarket doesn‘t bag your groceries? They do here in Southern California. We do have to put them on the conveyor belt ourselves. When I was a kid, the cashier also emptied the cart for the shopper. (edited) 2d
mcctrish @Ruthiella 🤯 I‘m conducting a poll on FB of what stores bag or if anyone even cares 🤦🏻‍♀️ my usual store does bag but I went to a store close to home today instead of the one on the way home from school and no bagging, even though I gave her my bins to load 2d
mcctrish @dabbe RIGHT? 2d
ElizaMarie @mcctrish @dabbe @willaful yeah I don‘t think she really needs ECT (I have treated patients pre and post ECT and—- try something first! ) like 2 doc appointments and they already gave up!? (edited) 2d
Clare-Dragonfly Yikes, as I expected—the shrink sucks. Going straight to electric shocks is not wise! Do you really think she‘s going to Chicago? There was something about a stop two blocks from her house. Sadly I just don‘t think she has the chutzpah to do something so bold. 1d
CogsOfEncouragement I finished this chapter after a short walk in the sunshine. Very helpful. 15h
julieclair This chapter made me so sad. Her depression, the shock treatment, the overall feeling of flatness. Just sad. 7h
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Andrea313
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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At home, Esther learns she didn't make the summer writing course she applied for. Her mental health is really starting to deteriorate as she both spies on and hides from her neighbours and vacillates rapidly between summer plans (I'll write a novel! No, I'll learn shorthand! No, I'll read Finnegan's Wake!). None of that happens, but she does manage to break up with Buddy and inadvertently wind up with a referral to a psychiatrist. Both wins, tbh.

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BarkingMadRead
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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mcctrish All of a sudden the randomness has a Lark Rise vibe #iykyk 3d
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BarkingMadRead @mcctrish it really does 🤣 3d
willaful Man, what a depressing chapter. I hope Esther is going to get some help but I kind of doubt it. :-\ 3d
BarkingMadRead @willaful I‘m worried that she will think she doesn‘t need it 3d
Deblovestoread Mrs. Kravitz! 3d
Clare-Dragonfly @BarkingMadRead Same! Or that the shrink will be terrible… 3d
Bookwormjillk I‘m with you all hoping she gets the help she needs. 3d
tpixie @Deblovestoread 😝 @BarkingMadRead Mrs Kravitz!!! 🧙 I LOVED Bewitched 3d
willaful @Clare-Dragonfly I think it's almost guaranteed that the shrink will be terrible. 😞 3d
Deblovestoread I loved Bewitched, too! @tpixie I was glad the family doc didn‘t just throw more pills at her. Hopefully her referral is a good one! 2d
dabbe Esther has never had anything below an “A“ in her life. She wins contests, too. Not getting into the summer class was her complete undoing. I'm almost scared now to read more.

BTW, do they live in a house in Boston? If so, why do the mom and Esther share the same bedroom? Or am I wrong in that assumption?
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TheAromaofBooks Waaaaaayy too casual about eating raw hamburger + raw egg 😂 2d
ElizaMarie Buddy !!! #RunForYourLifeNurse !! Hopefully he doesn't seduce that poor nurse who he “falls in love“ with. I mean. poor girl to be sucked into him! I am #proud Ester put her foot down with that one! 2d
julieclair @mcctrish Maybe the Lark Rose vibe was why Esther got on my last nerve in this chapter! 😂. But then I reached the end of the chapter and felt guilty about her getting on my nerves. She does need someone who can help her. I do hope the psychiatrist turns out to be a good one. But I'm fearful 8h
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Andrea313
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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The image I've concocted in my head of Esther throwing her clothes off the rooftop is so concrete and vivid that nothing I can find online even approximates it. But here's an image of two women on the roof of the real Barbizon Hotel so you get a sense of what her view may have been. This chapter is so intense and so profoundly sad, from Hilda's cold indifference to Marco's assault to the clothes floating into the city like "a loved one's ashes".

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This is a slow, contemplative novel about a young artist battling with her mental health. I was surprised by all the love in this sad novel. I am glad I read it. 3 🌟

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BarkingMadRead
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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Cuilin I wasn‘t prepared for the assault. Ugh. This though 🤛 👃 🩸 👍 4d
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BarkingMadRead @Cuilin me either, but she was totally badass 4d
mcctrish Absolutely badass and for real she should have stabbed him with the pin 4d
Ruthiella I‘m surprised I don‘t remember this at all from reading this before. It‘s traumatizing ! 4d
dabbe @mcctrish In a place where the sun don't shine! 💪🏻 4d
dabbe That green shirt, skirt, and stocking are giving me total Ali McGraw vibes from LOVE STORY! 💚 4d
mcctrish @dabbe the green doesn‘t make me unhappy and I totally agree with Love Story vibes 4d
tpixie @dabbe yes!! 💚💚💚 4d
BarkingMadRead @dabbe I love green, although maybe not quite this much and also not called bile green 🤣 4d
willaful I loved the line “It was a face that needed soap and water and Christian tolerance.“ 4d
Bookwormjillk @Ruthiella I don‘t remember it either 4d
tpixie @willaful lol great line 3d
julieclair This chapter was rough. I'm impressed by her presence of mind. 👊 9h
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Andrea313
The Bell Jar | Sylvia Plath
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A chapter full of disaster- an awkward, post-Christmas drive to the Adirondacks with Mr. Willard, Buddy making Esther read a terrible poem he wrote, an unwanted marriage proposal, and finally skiing lessons from Buddy *who has never gone skiing himself*?! All leading up to a broken leg on the slopes, and no wonder. Wish Esther had refused to ski full-stop because all of this is nonsense.

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