TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

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AllDebooks I think the Stapleton's are more suspicious as they are new arrivals. Who are they? Everyone else has long-standing connections to the area and the family. They're evidently distraught upon Sir Charles's death. 3mo

Librarybelle The Barrymores are hiding something, and I think the Stapletons are a bit suspicious. 3mo

IndoorDame I still maintain that the good doctor is totally creeptastic, but I‘m not saying he‘s the killer. Can‘t wait to learn more about the Barrymore‘s so many secrets there! Why are they really resigning? Why was Mrs. B crying? Why is Mr. B just denying it and not even making up some lame excuse? 3mo

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Cuilin @AllDebooks Dr Mortimer is very new to the area too. Though he brought Sherlock in on the case. He‘s the only one who gave him the details regarding Charles‘s death. He is a man of science admitting to a belief in the possibility of the supernatural. 🤔 3mo

AnnCrystal I agree that Dr. Mortimer seems a suspect, somehow. Yet, why would he go to the famous Sherlock Holmes for help??

Did Beryl Stapleton send the warning note to Sir Henry Baskerville??
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dabbe @IndoorDame I hope to meet the doctor's wife as well! 🤩 3mo

dabbe @Cuilin Sounds like Doyle to me! 😂 3mo

dabbe @AnnCrystal Interesting point! 3mo

dabbe @IndoorDame The Bs have GUILTY OF SOMETHING written all over them! 3mo

AllDebooks @Cuilin oops,my bad must have misread thatbitor fell asleep 😴 2mo

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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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AllDebooks It was my favourite part. Brooding, enveloping, and isolating atmosphere, and that was before the fog dropped! 😱🐾👀 3mo

Librarybelle It‘s perfect! The moors are mysterious and atmospheric and isolated. I kept waiting for the Brontes to make an entrance 😂 3mo

IndoorDame So oppressive! I actually found that section difficult to read. Literally difficult. My brain kept wandering off to less gloomy destinations. 3mo

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AnnCrystal The journey to the estate seemed lovely.

After the walk with Mr. Stapleton, I made a, “note to self“ to never visit a moor 😳😯🤔.
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dabbe @Librarybelle 😂😂😂 3mo

dabbe @AnnCrystal 😂😂😂 3mo

dabbe @IndoorDame The 1939 movie starring Basil Rathbone shows that atmosphere quite well--the movie being in black and white. Oppressive is a profound description! 3mo

dabbe This book, WUTHERING HEIGHTS, and THE SECRET GARDEN (IMHO) capture the awful beauty and vast loneliness of the moors throughout England. Why then, is it my #1 place I want to visit? When I looked up pictures of Dartmoor, some were heart-wrenchingly glorious and some were absolutely spooky. Weather and the clouds contribute to the effect, too. I just love the wildness of it--GRIMPEN MIRE and all! (which is really the Foxtor Miles). 3mo

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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

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AllDebooks Pretty obvious Holmes was up to something! 🔍 He was on the hunt. 3mo

Librarybelle Holmes‘s excuses did not ring true for me. He‘s following a lead! And yes, Watson leaving Henry alone…sigh… 3mo

Cuilin He gave Watson two instructions, to keep an eye on Henry and, search out and gain intelligence on the people in the neighborhood . I‘m not sure how he was meant to do the two things at the same time. This leads me to believe Sherlock is definitely up to something. 3mo

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IndoorDame I agree, Sherlock is definitely playing a double game. Since he‘s usually so eager to follow clients home for almost no reason with a mystery that interests him this much I‘d say he‘s definitely playing a double game. Possibly he‘s even there himself in disguise? (I actually don‘t remember the details even though I love this one, so it‘s fun to make genuine predictions all over again) 3mo

AnnCrystal 😂 “What the heck“ is exactly what I said...I also don't believe that Sherlock Holmes remained in London.

Dr. Watson should have waited to work out some sort of “bodyguard“ schedule with Dr. Mortimer.
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dabbe Excellent possibilities, everyone! Holmes could still be following leads in London, which would not make us privy to what's going on there. Or, he's in disguise and is there, but we just don't know it yet. This plot device reminds us that it is Watson who is our storyteller because we follow him to Baskerville Hall and leave Holmes behind. What a bold move--to leave your detective out of the book for a few chapters! 3mo

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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

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AllDebooks A lot of emphasis on the missing boots suggests there is a real animal involved. The return of the new boot supports this (no scent). 3mo

Librarybelle It‘s interesting that the one boot is found in a corner that has already been checked. My guess would be it is tied to the mystery. Good point, @AllDebooks ! 3mo

Cuilin @AllDebooks yes!! Also someone was able to get really close to return the missing new boot. 3mo

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IndoorDame They definitely highlight the importance of footsteps, and throw Dr. Mortimer in the light of a prime suspect. 3mo

CatLass007 The bit about the boots makes me wonder if someone is trying to drive the new heir crazy. Or make others believe he is crazy. 3mo

dabbe @Cuilin So close and yet being able to evade the hotel workers. 3mo

dabbe @AllDebooks Bravo! 🤩👏🤩 3mo

AnnCrystal That was my guess too @AllDebooks since it seems what was needed was something used by Sir Henry Baskerville. 3mo

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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Bookwomble The literary trope of giving authenticity and authority to an account by attributing it to an older (invented) source. I can immediately think of Geoffrey of Monmouth using the device for The History of the Kings of Britain, but I'll bet it goes back further. 3mo

Bookwomble Inspiration for the back story probably came from the legend of Squire Richard "Dirty Dick" Cabell. Doyle was assisted in plot elements of the story by Bertram Fletcher Robinson, who researched Dartmoor legends of the phantom hound, and after some acrimony received ⅓ of the royalties of the book. The tagged book is a fictional account of Doyle's & Robinson's collaboration and falling out ? Robinson died young, allegedly due to the Mummy's Curse!

The Baskerville Legacy: A Confession

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AllDebooks I agree with @Bookwomble it adds authenticity 3mo

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Librarybelle Perfect catch of that trope, @Bookwomble ! It adds authenticity to the story. As for the length of it, I think it‘s really setting a mood. Conan Doyle has created a spooky scene, on the moors no less. 3mo

Cuilin Definitely lending authenticity and creating an atmosphere that sets the tone for the rest of the novel. 3mo

IndoorDame We‘ve definitely had several stories before that have started with someone recounting a family legend or history verbatim to set the scene. Since the family member isn‘t the client initially, a written document makes sense so we know it‘s “true”. 3mo

dabbe There seems to be nothing better historically than a primary source document, even if said document refers to the supernatural. I think Doyle learned from his past two novels because this one gives us multiple subplots; diverse characters; and a plethora of suspects, clues, theories, and red herrings. Plus, the story spans hundreds of years. No wonder it's his magnum opus.

Thanks for the deets, too, @Bookwomble! 3mo

AnnCrystal I agree with @Bookwomble & @Librarybelle!

It gives more accountability to the legend, or to set atmosphere for the reader.

Also, Doyle was said to be a believer in the paranormal, maybe this was his chance to write such a scene.

It is interesting info you shared on this scene @Bookwomble.
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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle Miss Stapleton‘s warning was interesting—what is she hiding? We got a good impression of the moors and the bogs and the easy disappearance of things, so I‘m sure that will play a role as the story progresses. The missing boot is another intriguing piece—where is it??? 3mo

Cuilin @Librarybelle Yes, the boots!! Who is following him in London? The crying in the night? The circumstances of Charles‘s death and those foot/paw prints. So many it‘s great. 3mo

IndoorDame Yes! The boots! Why did the person following him in London give Sherlock‘s name? Is the Notting Hill murderer being on the loose just a coincidence? Who can we trust in Devonshire when everyone is keeping secrets? What was Sir Charles running from?… the clues and questions seem endless 3mo

dabbe We also have the warning cut in pieces from a London paper, warning Sir Henry to stay away from the moors. And the beard of the man in the cab--is it real or fake? Mr. Barrymore has a dark beard, too. 3mo

AnnCrystal The characters concern level about the escaped convict seems in the background.
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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur C Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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AllDebooks I really enjoyed it and loved Watson having a bigger narrative. 3mo

Librarybelle It‘s interesting that we jump right into the story despite the prior story ending in Holmes‘ supposed demise. This is my first time reading through the whole canon, and my first time reading this story…timeline-wise from Watson‘s telling, is this supposed to be read thinking the events take place before the Falls or after the Falls? Just curious. 3mo

TheAromaofBooks @Librarybelle - I am wondering the same thing! Are we going backwards in time, and Holmes is actually still (presumably) dead? Or have we skipped over a miraculous survival??? 3mo

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Cuilin I absolutely love it. It‘s perfectly paced. So many details. 3mo

Cuilin @TheAromaofBooks @Librarybelle Though we‘re reading the canon in the order it was published, this story is set before the Reichenbacher Falls incident. 3mo

IndoorDame @Cuilin I agree completely about the pacing and the details! 3mo

TheAromaofBooks @Cuilin - Thank you!!! 3mo

CogsOfEncouragement I enjoyed this one immensely. 3mo

CatLass007 I thought it sounded like Dr. Watson was recounting a story that took place when he was still sharing quarters with Holmes, before he met his wife. 3mo

Librarybelle Thanks, @Cuilin ! 3mo

Read4life This is one of my favorite Holmes stories. I agree with @Cuilin about the pacing and details. 3mo

dabbe HOUND takes place in 1889. Holmes comments on Mortimer's walking stick, where the date on it is 1884, that that was 5 years ago. “The Final Problem“ takes place in 1891.

Doyle wrote “The Final Problem“ in 1893 and HOUND was published in THE STRAND from 1901-1902 as a way to appease the public for killing off SH. It was so successful, he brought the detective back to life. A question I have: why not keep writing stories ⬇️ 3mo

dabbe about the 500-1000 cases Holmes already solved instead of bringing him back to life and have brand new stories going forward? There are so many fascinating stories that Watson alludes to throughout the ADVENTURES and MEMOIRS--but only by TITLE. Doyle could have written those stories instead. 🤔 3mo

AnnCrystal First, I'd like to thank @dabbe for allowing me to join in on this buddy read...I know that I signed on “totally“ uninvited 😳😉.

I'm excited to finally read this, and I'm glad that it has been awhile since I've watched a movie version.

Nice to read the words written by Doyle. His style isn't what I expected, yet I'm not sure what I expected, therefore I am not disappointed.

I never realized that this story was written to appease the public! 3mo

dabbe @AnnCrystal You are NOT uninvited! We welcome you with open arms and are glad you're joining us on this journey with SH and JW! 🤗 3mo

AnnCrystal 🥰💕 Thank You @dabbe 😉👍💝. Wonderful to be joining this conversation. I've even learned some new info. (edited) 3mo

kelli7990 I enjoyed this story. I‘m glad that we have more of it to read. 3mo

AnnCrystal Me too @kelli7990 😉👍📚. 3mo

dabbe @AnnCrystal 🧡🩶🧡 2mo

dabbe @kelli7990 @AnnCrystal That's probably the highest compliment an author could ever receive! 🧡🩶🧡 2mo

AnnCrystal @dabbe 👏😉👍💝. 2mo

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The Hound of the Baskervilles | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Hi, Sherlockians~
Lively discussion today! Next up: my favorite novel of ALL TIME! 🤩🤩🤩 The link with lots of interesting stuff re: the novel is below (with a summary--spoiler alert!). Next discussion will be in TWO WEEKS on 9/7 (Chs. 1-7) and will be led by @dabbe. Have a lovely week! 🤩

Link for fun facts: https://shorturl.at/KI1d9