SherlockHomes

The Adventure of The Second Stain | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @cuilin
#TheSecond Stain

Our last story in THE RETURN OF SH! Next up, the final novel, THE VALLEY OF FEAR. The 1st discussion will be over Part 1 (chapters 1-7) in TWO weeks: February 1 (already February!!!) The 1st discussion will be led by @Cuilin. The 2nd discussion will be over Part 2 (chapters 1-7) on February 22nd and will be led by @dabbe.

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

Librarybelle I was definitely thinking about Jane Eyre and poor Bertha! It actually made me think more of that whole situation versus any other Holmes‘ stories. 3d

dabbe @Librarybelle Yep. She tried to kill Jane and Rochester. And to use “Creole“ to show a woman who is impassioned. Prejudice, anyone? 😳

I also thought of “The Naval Treaty,“ “A Scandal in Bohemia,“ and “Charles Augustus Milverton“: a story with a stolen document, a story where a personal something is hidden, and a story with blackmail.“ Doyle needs some new tropes! 3d

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dabbe

The Adventure of The Second Stain | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @cuilin
#TheSecond Stain

Our last story in THE RETURN OF SH! Next up, the final novel, THE VALLEY OF FEAR. The 1st discussion will be over Part 1 (chapters 1-7) in TWO weeks: February 1 (already February!!!) The 1st discussion will be led by @Cuilin. The 2nd discussion will be over Part 2 (chapters 1-7) on February 22nd and will be led by @dabbe.

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle Yeah, just odd. I‘m not sure why Holmes wanted to protect Lady Hilda and yet not mention that security is a bit lax for important political correspondence. 3d

Cuilin Exactly, there‘s a spy in the government, we‘ll just sweep that under the carpet too. 3d

dabbe @Librarybelle @Cuilin ... could SH be like “Well, I've done my job. You asked me to get the document; there it is. I'm outta here.“ 😂 3d

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Cuilin @dabbe he‘s like “That‘s Mycroft‘s problem” 😆 3d

dabbe @Cuilin Oh, man, EXCELLENT observation! 😂🙌🏻😂 3d

AnneCecilie Holmes mind works in mysterious ways, but I like your take on it @Cuilin 😝 3d

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dabbe

The Adventure of The Second Stain | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @cuilin
#TheSecond Stain

Our last story in THE RETURN OF SH! Next up, the final novel, THE VALLEY OF FEAR. The 1st discussion will be over Part 1 (chapters 1-7) in TWO weeks: February 1 (already February!!!) The 1st discussion will be led by @Cuilin. The 2nd discussion will be over Part 2 (chapters 1-7) on February 22nd and will be led by @dabbe.

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle This did seem a bit convoluted, and the whole “steal one letter to get another letter” scheme seems a bit flimsy. I think Conan Doyle was really sick of these stories. 😂 3d

eeclayton I guess it makes sense to keep the document and use it against the potentate in the future if necessary. What I don't understand is why it seemed safer to carry the letter home instead of putting it in a safe. 3d

Cuilin It was all very melodramatic. What was in that letter? We‘ll never know. 3d

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dabbe @Librarybelle At least he didn't kill SH this time around; I think he knew he might be writing some more! 😂 3d

dabbe @eeclayton And Hope did that for days! When the government safe isn't good enough but your little box in your bedroom is, what does that say about national security? 3d

dabbe @Cuilin Inquiring minds want to know! 😂 3d

AnneCecilie This reminded me of an other of Doyle‘s stories where the same plot device was used. For the wife it‘s the fear that her husband will find out she has had feelings for someone else. As several other have already stated it doesn‘t make sense for the husband to carry his letter back and forth and was does it say about government security? 3d

dabbe @AnneCecilie I also want to know why Mrs. Hope's husband wouldn't forgive her; it seems Victorian expectations for wealthy women were nearly impossible to uphold. 2d

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dabbe

The Adventure of The Second Stain | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @cuilin
#TheSecond Stain

Our last story in THE RETURN OF SH! Next up, the final novel, THE VALLEY OF FEAR. The 1st discussion will be over Part 1 (chapters 1-7) in TWO weeks: February 1 (already February!!!) The 1st discussion will be led by @Cuilin. The 2nd discussion will be over Part 2 (chapters 1-7) on February 22nd and will be led by @dabbe.

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle This was another one that is not as suspenseful as other stories in the collection. It was just okay for me, not one of my favorite stories. 3d

eeclayton It was a clever plot, but I felt a little underwhelmed about the ending. 3d

dabbe @Librarybelle There seemed to be a lot of talking and not much doing. Even Holmes states that “only one important thing has happened in the last three days, and that is that nothing has happened.“ 😂😴😂 3d

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dabbe @eeclayton I thought it was clever to the point of really having to suspend my disbelief. 🤩 3d

AnneCecilie I liked it well enough. I think I was more shocked during the first paragraph than about the conclusion. I can not see a retired Holmes as a bee-farmer. 3d

dabbe @AnneCecilie Who wants no more notoriety either! It is difficult to swallow, isn't it? 3d

AnneCecilie It most definitely is 3d

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LitsyEvents

The Adventure of the Second Stain: Sherlock Holmes | Arthur Conan Doyle

Repost for @dabbe

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheSecondStain

Hi, Sherlockians~
Another interesting discussion this past Saturday. Our next SH read, “(TAo) The Adventure of the Second Stain“, is linked below (spoiler alert). Discussion will be on JANUARY 18th & will be led by @dabbe. It's the last story in THE RETURN OF SH! Happy 🐫 Day.

P.S. If you'd like to be removed from this list, let us know.

Link: https://shorturl.at/83JbV

dabbe Thank you! 🤩🤗🤩 5d

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dabbe

The Adventure of The Second Stain | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#TheSecondStain
@LitsyEvents

Hi, Sherlockians~
Another interesting discussion this past Saturday. Our next SH read, “(TAo) The Adventure of the Second Stain“, is linked below (spoiler alert). Discussion will be on JANUARY 18th and will be led by @dabbe. It's the last story in THE RETURN OF SH! Happy 🐫 Day.

P.S. If you'd like to be removed from this list, let us know.

Link: https://shorturl.at/83JbV

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Librarybelle Thank you! 6d

dabbe @Librarybelle YW! 😘 Loved the #NancyDrewBR questions today! 🩶🖤🩶 6d

Librarybelle Thanks! ❤️ 5d

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bekakins

The Adventure of the Six Napoleons | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#bookspin for Jan was 3 more Sherlock Holmes stories… fairly enjoyable

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TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! I just read this one yesterday, too. Still catching up 😂 2w

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Cuilin

The Adventure of the Golden Pince-Nez: No. 38 | Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @dabbe

I think I missed something regarding the poison.

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Librarybelle To me, it seemed a little odd that she took the poison. I also wasn‘t 100% sure why they went to the Russian embassy. 1mo

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CogsOfEncouragement 1 - not sure

2 - Her life was horrible, and she didn't want to have to do time for killing the secretary?

3 - I thought SH and W wanted to provide the evidence to free Alexis from his sentence in the Siberian salt mine as the Mrs. requested. 1mo

Daisey I agree with @CogsOfEncouragement that she didn‘t want to be convicted of murder and they went to the embassy to share the proof of evidence. 1mo

Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement @Librarybelle I think the poison was a bit extra but as @Daisey said she didn‘t want to be convicted of murder and therefore sent to prison. 1mo

dabbe @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement @Librarybelle ... what I don't get is why have poison in the first place? It was proven by Holmes that she did not come there to murder anyone. She didn't bring a murder weapon at all--yet she brings poison? Just in case? How would she know she'd be in a place where she could quickly find a weapon if she needed to? 1mo

Librarybelle Good point, @dabbe ! 1mo

Cuilin @dabbe exactly!! 1mo

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Cuilin

The Adventure of the Golden Pince-Nez: No. 38 | Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @dabbe

It‘s Sherlock so possibly but so much information was gleaned from one object. Thoughts?

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Librarybelle You‘re right—possibly Sherlock would have figured it out, but, as the title suggests, the pince nez was the pivotal clue. 1mo

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CogsOfEncouragement I thought the change in the amount of food being consumed was key. Maybe even someone with 20/20 vision would take the wrong way in trying to leave the house because of the flooring. 1mo

Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement yes, the food was pivotal. He knew the suspect was still in the building. 1mo

dabbe Holmes (being Holmes) probably could have put it together without the pince-nez. The footprints and lack thereof on the garden path is another clue as well as the same type of carpeting leading to the garden as well as to Coram's room. The glasses are the cherry on top of the banana split, as the cliche goes. 1mo

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Cuilin

The Adventure of the Golden Pince-Nez: No. 38 | Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @dabbe

Interested her hear what other people think of this one. It fell a little flat for me but it may be a me issue. Thoughts?

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Librarybelle I thought it was a little flat too. For me, it was not as exciting as some of the other cases. I did like the hidden room. 1mo

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CogsOfEncouragement Maybe SH's perfect description of the culprit? Seems like something Watson would particularly want to share with his readers. 1mo

kelli7990 I didn‘t like this story that much. 1mo

Cuilin @Librarybelle @CogsOfEncouragement @kelli7990 I see we‘re all on the same page with this one. 1mo

dabbe A day late! So sorry! Perhaps this one was included for its Russian pre-revolution plot or whatnot. Every time Watson mentions all of the other cases that he never writes about, THOSE are the ones I wish we could read! Somebody needs to write pastiches with exactly those titles! 🤩 1mo

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