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The Divider
The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021 | Peter Baker, Susan Glasser
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NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER "The most comprehensive and detailed account of the Trump presidency yet published."The Washington Post "A sumptuous feast of astonishing tales...The more one reads, the more one wishes to read."NPR.com The inside story of the four years when Donald Trump went to war with Washington, from the chaotic beginning to the violent finale, told by revered journalists Peter Baker of The New York Times and Susan Glasser of The New Yorkeran ambitious and lasting history of the full Trump presidency that also contains dozens of exclusive scoops and stories from behind the scenes in the White House, from the absurd to the deadly serious. The bestselling authors of The Man Who Ran Washington argue that Trump was not just lurching from one controversy to another; he was learning to be more like the foreign autocrats he admired. The Divider brings us into the Oval Office for countless scenes both tense and comical, revealing how close we got to nuclear war with North Korea, which cabinet members had a resignation pact, whether Trump asked Japans prime minister to nominate him for a Nobel Prize and much more. The book also explores the moral choices confronting those around Trumphow they justified working for a man they considered unfit for office, and where they drew their lines. The Divider is based on unprecedented access to key players, from President Trump himself to cabinet officers, military generals, close advisers, Trump family members, congressional leaders, foreign officials and others, some of whom have never told their story until now.
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I just find it interesting in 2020 the idea of Joe Biden being replaced as a presidential candidate with a stronger democrat was seen as a Trump conspiracy theory… yet here we are in 2024. 2020 foreshadows 2024.

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And that was the problem with the whole pandemic. Politics got in the way. I wonder how many lives could have been saved had we not let politics get in the way of healthcare? #pandemic #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser #donaldtrump #covid19 #coronavirus #anthonyfauci #ushistory #history #politicalscience #uspolitics

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Language alert!- In a world of rivals, Chris Christie and Donald Trump had remained friends… up until this point at least. After Trump‘s disastrous Oval Office speech that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump convinced him to give, Chris Christie finally asked the question I‘m sure we‘ve all been asking since the beginning of this book- What the fuck does Jared know about politics? #thedivider #donaldtrump #jaredkushner #peterbaker #susanglasser

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But enough about what I think… how would the Middle East look today if John Bolton and Mike Pompeo got their way and we went to war with Iran? #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser #donaldtrump #johnbolyon #mikepompeo #war #iran #internationalpolitics #alternatehistory #history #ushistory #worldhistory #uspolitics #politicalscience

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I‘m a political scientist, a historian, and as of recent, an anti war activist, particularly senseless wars with no purpose. I think Trump made the right call in deciding not to go to war with Iran. Strikes would have put more pressure on Iran, and a regime change could have been successful, but the other side of the matter is we could have started another 20 year war.

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I look at other sources of disinformation such as biased news sources such as Fox News or MSNBC on the left. I think if a person focuses on one news source alone, it‘s going to impact a person‘s decision more than Russia ever could. I guess the way I look at it, Russian interference is a big deal, but there were other influences in 2016 that could change a person‘s opinion before he or she even looked at Russian propaganda.

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When it comes to Russian interference in the 2016 election we have, I am skeptical regarding how much the Russians influenced my vote, my family‘s votes, my state‘s vote, all the way to everyone in the US‘ vote. Did Russia create fake stories and fake social media pages to influence others? Yes, but I think at a certain point unless a person was truly undecided when finding a Russian page, most people had their minds made up.

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Donald Trump not only had a hard time understanding international politics, but also had a hard time understanding war and sacrifice. At a certain point, there was just no teaching him. #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser #donaldtrump #war #politics #uspolitics #internationalpolitics #military #sacrifice #history #worldhistory #ushistory #politicalscience

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So there was no invasion. 🤷🏻‍♀️There was no mass caravan, but I think the lesson of the debacle is that unethical practices were never off the table for Trump. But what if there was an invasion? And what if it would have been successful? If the caravan had succeeded, what would the country look like today? And just because I‘m curious what measures could Trump have taken to prevent the migrants from crossing the border?

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I was going to wait until the end of the chapter, but I decided to go ahead and post a thought. Clearly, the house was burning down in 2018, and when we say the house, we mean the White House and entire executive branch. Trump had grandiose ideas. Members of Trump‘s cabinet had grandiose ideas. Those who actually had knowledge of any type of legal procedures were shut down in a matter of minutes. Here‘s hoping 2025 will be better.

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I love a good Shakespeare reference. After Trump‘s meeting with Putin and disastrous news conference, John Bolton told Republican Senator Roy Blunt that Putin will always be Putin and took the opportunity to make this reference to Hamlet. #thedivider #vladimirputin #donaldtrump #peterbaker #susanglasser #ushistory #internationalpolitics #worldhistory #politicalscience #russia #unitedstates #johnbolton #hamlet

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Sometimes, I just laugh at some of the things Trump says because there‘s nothing else I can do. This is one of those times. #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser #kimjongun #internationalpolitics #donaldtrump #internationalpolitics #politicalscience #history #worldhistory #negotiations #summit #northkorea #unitedstates

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I like this quote. I don‘t want to lean one way or another with the quotes I choose, but I think this quote by Brendan Buck explains the state of Congress during the Trump presidency. #government #trump #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser #brendanbuck #houseofrepresentatives #politicalscience #uspolitics #congress #paulryan #donaldtrump #history #ushistory

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We got a lot of hirings and firings in chapter 8. I don‘t know about you, but I definitely got a headache reading these. Knowing that Trump is going to be president again in a few short months, I want to know if you could give him advice on what to look for as he chooses his cabinet members, what would you tell him? What makes a good cabinet member? #donaldtrump #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser #presidency#presidentialcabinet #ushistory

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And now the discussion… When I think of tax reform, I think of something for the greater good. This typically involves lowering taxes. However, as Trump has said, tax reform could raise taxes. I want to know what does tax reform mean to you?

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Quote and discussion time starting with the quote…

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“If there‘s a fire you‘re trying to douse, you can‘t put it wout from inside of the house. I‘m in the cabinet. I am complicit.” #thedivider #susanglasser #peterbaker #hamilton #trump #presidenttrump #ushistory#uspolitics #politicalscience #history #thomasjefferson

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I think one of the issues with Trump is he was very “America first” which is okay, but he focused too much on domestic issues instead of international and domestic. He failed to study up on international issues and policies which led to the disastrous decisions and conflicts he had with his secretaries and generals. #donaldtrump #thedivider #peterbaker #susanglasser

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Everyone on Trump‘s staff agreed with everything he said to the point of where cabinet meetings looked like something out of North Korea. Other than the obvious of getting fired, what could have happened if someone would have just said “no?” #thedivider #donaldtrump #peterbaker #susanglasser #no #politics #politicalscience #history #americanpolitics #ushistory #alternatehistory #whatif #cabinetmeetings

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I found what I read about Roy Cohn to be interesting, I also did my own research as well. I really want to know what happened to his wife. I tried to see if he had gotten divorced at one point but couldn‘t find any information anywhere. I‘m more interested as to when he contracted HIV and if he could have passed it to his wife. I would assume he did not, but it is interesting. #thedivider #roycohn #lgbtqhistory #history #donaldtrump #law

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I should have posted this question first, but I want to know as we talk about Trump‘s success, how do you define success?

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So knowing what we know, was Trump as successful as we always said he was? He engaged in questionable practices with questionable people, so can we really say he was successful?

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Regardless of what you may think, Trump engaged in shady practices as well as had some shady connections…

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When you think about it, there were signs that there was going to be an insurrection. #insurrection #thedivider #donaldtrump #january6 #peterbaker #susanglasser #ushistory #history

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A 700-page indictment of everything the Trump administration and everything it stood for. Incredibly well researched and written.

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Reading The Divider is like rereading a familiar horror novel: even knowing what will happen next, you are still frightened. And even knowing the broad strokes of what happens, you are enraged by the details and nuance you initially missed. A political thriller as much as an historical narrative.