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The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two
The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two: Part Two | J.R.R. Tolkien
The Book of Lost Tales was the first major work of imagination by J.R.R. Tolkien, begun in 1916, when he was twenty-five years old, and left incomplete several years later. It stands at the beginning of the entire conception of Middle-earth and Valinor, for the Lost Tales were the first form of the myths and legends that came to be called The Silmarillion. Embedded in English legend and association, they are set in the narrative frame of the great westward voyage of a mariner named Eriel (or AElfwine). His destination is Tol Eressea, the Lonely Isle where Elves dwell; from them he learns their true history, the Lost Tales of Elfinesse. The Tales include the earliest accounts of Gods and Elves, Dwarves, Balrogs, and Orcs; of the Silmarils and the Two Trees of Valinor; of Nargothrond and Gondolin; of the geography and cosmography of their invented world.The Book of Lost Tales is published in two volumes. The first contains the Tales of Valinor; and this second past includes Beren and Luthien, Turin and the Dragon, and the only full narratives of the Necklace of the Dwarves and the Fall of Gondolin. Each tale is followed by a commentary, together with associated poems, and each volume contains extensive information on names and vocabulary of the earliest Elvish languages. Additional books in this series will extend the history of Middle-earth as it was refined and enlarged in later years and will include the long Lays of Beleriand, the Ambarkanta or Shape of the World, the Lhammas or Account of Tongues, annals, maps, and many other previously unpublished writings of J.R.R. Tolkien.
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sdbruening
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Panpan

Like the first book of lost tales, it‘s a lot of extraneous explanation from Christopher Tolkien about his father‘s work. The last few stories were unfinished but a few did have full narratives. I liked a couple of them, but the Turambar tale was super messed up and violent. A lot of this is more fleshed out in the Silmarillion.

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JazzFeathers
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#wondrouswednesday @Eggs
Thanks to @TheSpineView for tagging me and sorry first the delay.

1. Stay up late... though lately has been increasingly hard. I tend to be so tired at night.
2. Wingelot.
3. By genre, and inside every genre, by author's last name.

TheSpineView Nothing wrong with late!😊 5y
Eggs #3-I like that system. Never worry about the “late”— it‘s lovely to hear from you whenever 🥳 5y
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Jennymay
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Pickpick

Earliest form of the complex myths that would eventually comprise the Silmarillion. The Tales are very different from the Silmarillion and a great read for those of you who love Tolkien‘s elf races.

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Daisey
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Pickpick

These early versions of Tolkien‘s stories required a decent amount of concentration, and I would probably not recommend them for anyone other than serious Tolkien fans or writers interested in the processes of other writers. Yet, I love having the opportunity to read and compare them alongside later stories. I appreciate the amazing world he created even more with every book I read.

#LotRChapterADay #YearofTolkien

AmyG Marbles! I used to have a whole marble collection, but my Mom gave them away when I moved out of the house. :( (in the 80‘s) 7y
JazzFeathers I totally agree. But then, l am a hard-core Tolkien fan and a writer myself, so probably my opinion counts very little 😆 7y
Daisey @AmyG This jar is just sitting around from various class projects, but sometimes it makes a decent photo prop. 🙂 7y
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JazzFeathers
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Finished it yesterday night and really really liked it. Both part one and two.
While the first part of the Lost Tales are concerned with the Valar and the creation of Middle-Earth, this second part is concerned with the great stories. These are so different in nature and still all of them will become so strong in the 'definite' version. I wouldn't be able to choose my favourite

#YearOfTolkien #LotRChapterADay

Daisey @JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I see the Lays of Beleriand in the background. Do we have a plan for continuing? 7y
JazzFeathers @Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa l'd be happy to carry on with the rest of the History of Middle Earth 😁 lf you gals are intrtested too. Otherwise, l'm open to whatever Tolkien plan 😆 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers @Daisey and I think we lost @InLibrisVeritas along the way with this one, but I‘ll tag her too just in case. I could use a break, but I kind of hate to stop now that we‘ve gotten this far too. I personally had a harder time with this one, sometimes it felt more like have to read this instead of pure fun read... but at the same time I‘m interested in the backstories behind the later Hobbit stories, but I also know that‘s a few books.. 7y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...before we get to that part of the story. So after all that, I‘m undecided. I‘ll leave it up to you two and join in when I can I guess. 7y
Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I had a harder time with this one as well, but I am glad I read it. I also own the next couple books in the History of Middle-Earth so I figure this is my best chance to read them with any discussion. With that, I guess my thought is to go on with the Lays of Beleriand, but I'm absolutely open to other options or discussion. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey Then I‘d say let‘s continue on. I‘ll order a copy and catch-up when mine comes. I usually enjoy his poetry quite a bit so hopefully this next one will be a smoother read. 7y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey l'm sorry to hear it was hard for you. For me, only the last two chapter were a bit confusing, but l still enjoyed reading them. I'm fine taking a break if you gals would like it. Do you think it would help if we discuss it more often? Say, every two or three chapters? 7y
Daisey @JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I think it was the last couple at the end that were more outline and notes than actual story that I had the hardest time with. I really enjoyed the very last section that was a completely different story about AElfwine, although I'm glad Tolkien didn't stick with that variation. I also like the format we use now, just making our own posts and comments as we feel like it. (edited) 7y
InLibrisVeritas I have been keeping with the posts but I fell behind back when I was making a job change. Just let me know which book is up next and I'll get a copy 7y
InLibrisVeritas I will catch up on Lost Tales on my own and try to join in on the next one! @Riveted_Reader_Melissa 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers and @Daisey Since @InLibrisVeritas and I need to track down a copy, you want to wait about a week and then start. Since you both have a copy of the book already you can decide on/work out a schedule? 🤷‍♀️ 7y
InLibrisVeritas @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Thanks! I'll find a copy tonight. 7y
JazzFeathers @InLibrisVeritas l'm so happy to know you're still reading along! @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey l suppose it's my turn to work out the schedule 😆 Will do over the weekend 👍 7y
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One more reason to move “She” up on my to-read list.... the never ending list😂

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JazzFeathers Goodness. 'She' has been on my TBR forever 😧 7y
Daisey I had never heard of this book, although I see it is on the 1001 books list, but I was telling a friend about this reference last night. Turns out she‘s reading it right now on Serial Reader and sent me a text this morning showing she had found the name I mentioned. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey and in Serial Reader too! Guess I should move it up my list! 7y
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☺️ seems like a good way to sum up a lot of Christopher‘s research with his father‘s writings, not just this last chapter.

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JazzFeathers There's melancoly in there, just like at the end of The Lord of the Rings 😦 7y
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The second part of the chapter tells of an edition of the idea of Eriol. Here the character has turned into Aelfwine, a true English man who goes looking for Tolkien's Eressea and the fairies that once lived on what then became Great Britain.
There's a long fragment of that story here.

#YearOfTolkien

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This last chapter, based on sketch and notes, it's a bit hard to follow. The first half is dedicate to Eorl, his life in Tol Eressea and what Tol Eressea meant in tge early legendarium. Loved it. I had never realised before what 'creating a mythology for tge English people' meant

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I‘m not much of a poetry reader, and with everything else on my TBR this month I did not really plan any poetry to add for April. However, two of the books I‘m reading this moth do include poetry in the stories, and I‘m enjoying it so much. I especially enjoy these narrative poems by J.R.R. Tolkien, and realizing he wrote them during WWI adds to their emotional impact for me.

#YearofTolkien #LotRChapterADay #poetry

Daisey The other book with poetry that I‘m currently reading is 7y
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Daisey
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Plans for this afternoon include housework as well as some crafting and wrapping for #JaneAustenSwap, and I hope to read some more of this book.

I admit I‘m struggling a bit to stay engaged with the vague outline form of the Eriol story, but I have enjoyed the bits of poetry included.
#YearofTolkien #LotRChapterADay

JazzFeathers Yeah, this last chapter is a bit hard ti follow, but l still enjoy reading the process 😊 7y
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Poor Legolas 🧝‍♂️, always under-appreciated.

Go Tolkien 👏

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JazzFeathers 😆💪👏 7y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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As with Part One lots depth and early development of what would eventually become the Silmarillion, from brainstorming to outlines, to early and discarded drafts & entirely reworked ideas, all researched and expertly presented by Christopher Tolkien. As always great history into Middle Earth, but even more so into the writing process and the writer‘s working evolution as they craft their unique story.

#YearOfTolkien

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Had to finish this one up a bit ahead of schedule, the Library calls...🤷‍♀️ 7y
Daisey I‘m hoping to make time to finish it this weekend. 7y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey l'm aiming at finishing in the weekend too. For some reasons (maybe because then it completely disappeared) l find the frame story particularly interesting. 7y
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JazzFeathers
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And after a break of a few days (l ended up being ahead) l'm back to #YearOfTolkien readalong. I've been missing Middle-Earth 😁

Nute It‘s so easy to miss the created worlds of science fiction and fantasy especially when you‘ve been hanging out in them for several books of a series. 7y
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“Doubtless in these jottings my father was thinking with his pen, exploring independent narrative paths; one gets the impression of a ferment of ideas and possibilities rapidly displacing one another, from which no one stable narrative core can be extracted. A complete ‘solution‘ is therefore in all probability an unreal aim, and this reconstruction no doubt as artificial“

I think that about sums up this section for me so far.🧐

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I knew he started out wanting to create a distinctly English mythology, but reading it like this made me disappointed...

I could see wanting your own epic to compare to the great Scandinavian, Greek, and Celtic mythologies, but one that‘s ‘better than‘ the others...more ‘true‘ than theirs... stated that way feels off-putting to me. Maybe I‘m just taking it the wrong way tonight, but 🙄🤮

I‘m SO glad that he went another way.

#YearOfTolkien

JazzFeathers I haven't read this section yet (l'm just reading your excerp here), but it may mean, 'more true to his (English) people'. Besides he wanted to create a mythology especially 'for them' since all other people seemed to already have their own 😉 7y
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#TrivialThursday @GarthRanzz

1. #YearOfTolkien which started last year as #LotRChapterADay And l'm still loving it

2. I actually quite like my name. But if l ever wanted to change it, it's be Elettra. Always loved classic names, and this one has an awesome sound and belongs to a fantastic, tragic heroine

3. We've Had Enough, one of my favourite Michael Jackson's songs

SilversReviews I like my name too. :) 7y
Daisey I know I haven't been doing a great job of keeping up lately, but I'm also still loving the Tolkien readalong. It makes me spend more time thinking and comparing what I read instead of sometimes rushing through the pages. 7y
GarthRanzz Thanks for participating Sarah! 7y
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Daisey
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Still reading “The Tale of Earendel” after supper. I thought this one would be a fairly quick read, but I‘ve just got too many things on the list this week. Looking forward to finishing the poetic versions yet tonight. I enjoy Tolkien‘s poems much more than I ever expected.

#YearofTolkien #LotRChapterADay

JazzFeathers True, eh? Especially because my first encounters with Tolkien's poetry was in translation, and that really doesn't do 7y
Daisey @JazzFeathers I would imagine his poetry might lose something in the translation. I don‘t know if it‘s just that I enjoy his writing in general, but I do enjoy his poetry more than most. 7y
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JazzFeathers
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Loved reading these, the oldest texts and ideas about Middle Earth.

I'm fascinated by how Tolkien seemed to work backward. I mean, he created Earendel, then started wondering where he came from and Gondolin was created. Then he wandered where the Silmaril came from and Beren and Luthien were born. And then always backward until the beginning of time.
I'm just loving learning all of this 😍

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This tale was dark with a lot of emphasis on the impact of the curses laid upon the gold and the oath of the Silmaril, leading to how the desire for these treasures continuously brought misfortune upon whomever gained them. The description in this line struck me.

“. . . the king‘s hall ran with gore, and the gold that lay before his throne, scattered and spurned by trampling feet, was drenched with blood.”

#YearofTolkien #LotRChapterADay #quote

JazzFeathers This seems the concept that then became peculiar to the stolen Silmarils 7y
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I found one that Christopher Tolkien himself didn‘t notice! 🤭. Apparently when Beren the one handed was an elf, and came back from the dead....he grew back his hand!!!! Which means his nickname wouldn‘t have been very accurate anymore.😂

Resurrection regrows lost limbs!
🤫Don‘t fell anyone!

#YearOfTolkien

Swe_Eva Good, so I‘ll know what to do if I ever lose a limb: resurrect. 😉😂 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Swe_Eva Good to know, right! You NEVER know when that information might be useful....or dare I say it, handy! 7y
Swe_Eva @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Ahaha! 😂 Puns make me happy. (edited) 7y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Swe_Eva Just to be safe, I should probably add a disclaimer....Don‘t try this at home, results my vary.😂 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Swe_Eva You are welcome! 7y
Swe_Eva @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘ll make sure to engage a professional. 😂😂😂 7y
Daisey Interesting catch! 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey Maybe he‘s still one handed, but his arms are tired because he‘s throwing a lot of elbows with that handless arm? 🤔 7y
Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I was thinking maybe he has some kind of shield strapped to his arm?! 😆 7y
JazzFeathers 😂😂😂 you gals killed me!!! Ahem... now seriously 😐 Seems odd to me that Christopher missed this. Probably it us implied that even if he misses and hand, he can still used his arm to fight 🤔 7y
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This is probably the most shockingly different version of the earlier stories of Middle-Earth. I mean, Dwarves on the side of the evil? 😨
I'm happy Tolkien then changed idea about them. Yeah, l have a soft spot for Dwarves. I think they ended up being wonderfully complex characters.

#YearOfTolkien

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I totally agree! 7y
Daisey I just finished this story and agree too. The whole tone of this story was different, and the dwarves were a major part of that. 7y
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Maybe Legolas and Gimli‘s friendship was fated from way back when they were both originally elves, and it stuck. 😉

Funny to think that out of LOTR Legolas was the first name to be born and Gimli the second and they ended up developing such a special friendship.

#YearOfTolkien

Daisey I liked seeing these early uses of the names, and I especially like your theory! 7y
JazzFeathers Me too. That's such a great theory. And who knows, it might be true. Authors sometimes like to make jokes like this 😄 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers more likely, being the first two he thought of that found places in LOTR, he had warm feeling for both of those characters, so it was only natural that they‘d have warm feeling for each other, and that he‘d want to give them a little something special in larger story. 7y
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Finished up my Gondolin chapter & commentary this morning. That story definitely felt very different from what I remember of the Silmarillion. From special armor and 7 gates to Rog of the house of the Stricken Anvil & Legolas Greenleaf of the house of the Tree, and much more detail about the battle than I remember the first time through, Balrogs & dragons, oh my!

#YearOfTolkien

I found some images to add to the ones @JazzFeathers always finds.

JazzFeathers It was definitely a very different story from the one in the Silmarillion, both in structure and feeling. So many things would change in the years to come. Besides, l understand this is the very first story ever written about Middle-Earth. Can't wait for the new book. @Daisey says it will be similar in structure to Beren and Luthien 💙 7y
JazzFeathers Really like the pics you've found, especially the elf with the axe 😄 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Google images when I searched for Rog. I thought that was a great, and different than the usual, artist rendering. 7y
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I had supper and finished the commentary for “The Fall of Gondolin” outside on this lovely evening. I found the first section kind of vague. For example, I missed the arms mentioned on this page that Tuor takes to Gondolin as a sign of who he is. However, I really enjoyed reading the more detailed description of the battle, although the Balrogs were not at all what they came to be in later stories.

#YearofTolkien #LotRChapterADay #readandeat

JazzFeathers True, the first part was a bit vague, but l kind of liked the dream-like feeling it created. 7y
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From what l had previously read of the Fall of Gondolin, l never imagined such a story or was. The dynamics, the different compagnie, the movement of the battle. Everything is so different from the sommare in the Silmarillion.
I've just learned that the book of the Fall of Gondolin will be out in August. Can't wait.

#YearOfTolkien

TK421 I will be waiting for that book release! 7y
Daisey I just saw an article about the new book. Intrigued!! 7y
JazzFeathers @TK421 @Daisey l can't wait to read it. Finished to read the earlier version yesterday night (from Book of Lost Tales) and it is truly an epic story 7y
Daisey I‘ve finally shed the story, but have not yet finished the commentary. I thought the beginning was a bit vague, but I really appreciated the battle portion of this version. 7y
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JazzFeathers
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The central part of the story feels very rough in comparison with the version of the Silmarillion, particularly Meglin. But some thing are already there: ldril is already such a strong character.

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I really like the quality of this story. The first part, where Tuor wanders the land and very little seems to happen could have been boring. Instead it has such dreamy quality, a kind a suspended atmosphere that suggests something is going to happen soon.
Loved it.

#YearOfTolkien

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TobeyTheScavengerMonk
The Book of Lost Tales | John Ronald Reuel Tolkien
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Coming August 30th. So pretty.

ReadingVampire Wow!😯 I thought the last one was well the last one! Cool! 7y
wordslinger42 Just in time for a belated birthday gift to myself 😄 7y
RealBooks4ever Love the cover! 😻 7y
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JazzFeathers Just learned about it. I'm so excited! #YearOfTolkien 7y
Moray_Reads And you just know they'll be a deluxe edition... 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes! More Alan Lee illustrations! 7y
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Daisey
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25 hours and 5 minutes for #25infive and I made it with an hour to spare before midnight! 2 audiobooks and 1 book of poetry completed, as well as progress on 3 other books. 📚

Although I am not yet done reading this story, I need to get some sleep. So far, I‘m finding that the early version is missing a lot of the detail I enjoyed in the later version.

#YearofTolkien

Smrloomis 🎉 awesome! 7y
Ash.on.the.line 👏🏼🎉 awesome! 7y
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 7y
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AnneCecilie 👏👏👏 7y
Andrew65 Brilliant! A fantastic effort. Thanks for playing along.🏆🎉🙌💐🥂👏🎈🍾😊🏆🎉🙌💐🥂👏🎈🍾😊 7y
Daisey @Smrloomis @Ash.on.the.line @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks @AnneCecilie @Andrew65 Thanks everyone! It made for a great weekend! 7y
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Finally caught up on this story, and almost back on schedule. But I have to say, although revisiting these stories should seem very repetitive by now, the versions are also very different, and I‘m still really appreciating Christopher‘s work in bringing all this normally backstage story-craft (in outlines, drafts and revisions) into the foreground. It‘s amazing how much of the stories were there from the beginning and how much was changed, ....

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ... tinkered with, added to and reworked to make the final story we know now. #YearOfTolkien 7y
JazzFeathers I'm so happy we have the possibility to see how the story took form. Though sometimes l wonder whether this is because l write my own stories too. I've heard of readers who didn't enjoy Beren and Luthien because it isn't a story 😕 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers It‘s still a story, but I know what they mean. I can only imagine if he‘d had the chance to flesh out that story into a full LOTR type trilogy. I‘m sure that story started with a similar outline then short story synopsis, etc too. 7y
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JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa l'd be curious to know. I mean, if that's the way he worked, l think he'd 'probably' do the same with LOTR. Still l've read a passage from a letter (l think he was) where he seemed to go on the whim. He eve said Aragorn appeared suddenly at the Prancing Pony e Tolkien had no idea who he was 😲 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I remember that too.... but after that stroke of inspiration there had to be brainstorming about who he was, outlines and refinements of his story. Maybe if we continue with the history of books, we‘ll eventually get to that part of the story (2 or so books from now). That would be very interesting to me. 7y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa l really hope do. It'd be awesome to read of how LOTR took form. Sometimes l wonder whether Tolkien wrote a bit like me. I go with the inspiration in the first draft. True planning only comes with the second draft. 7y
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Ok,now I think I need to go looking for this book to skim through too.

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InLibrisVeritas I want it as well. I have seen it mentioned a few times. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @InLibrisVeritas Tolkien may be a never-ending trove of books we ‘need‘ to look for... and sadly I‘ve about exhausted my library‘s resources, which means I have to start actively looking and shopping. 7y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa l've already started actively looking and shopping. In fact, l've also just gotten a new bookcase just for Tolkien 😆 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Excellent! I need to find more room for more book shelves. 7y
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Daisey
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I finished “Turambar and the Foaloke” and found it interesting to compare to the more finished version of The Children of Hurin. This story has a lot of the key aspects, but the depth of emotion and tragedy is not nearly as developed as it would come to be.

#YearofTolkien #LotRChapterADay #25infive

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I just finished it up myself, so almost caught up! 👍 7y
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Daisey
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So happy to have a simple Saturday morning breakfast with my books! I haven‘t made much progress through this story for #YearofTolkien or time for #25infive the last couple of days, but I hope to remedy that today! I plan to alternate this book with audio while working on housework.

LiteraryinPA Looks like a relaxing morning! 7y
Andrew65 It‘s still coming along well, and a good morning by the look of it. 😊 7y
Daisey @LiteraryinLititz Absolutely! @Andrew65 A very good morning, and I‘m actually feeling like I‘m making some progress now! 7y
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It's true that these earlier versions of the big tales are very different from the later versions, but l think this is especially true for this central part of Turin's story.
Although the basically structure of the story is already there, characters, their personality and their reasons are still so basically that nothing of the story's later tragedy really comes out.
As a writer, l'm fascinated to witnessed the evolution.

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Daisey I just finished the story, although I still need to read the commentary, and I completely agree! Reading The Story of Kullervo and this version provide an amazing view of the evolution of the story. This version is interesting but nowhere near the depth of tragedy and emotion I felt when reading the final. 7y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l should really read Kullervo. One of my friends fron the Verona Tolkien group made a conference about the similarities between Kullervo and Turin and really it was fascinating. 7y
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I‘m enjoying these early versions, but sometimes my brain is overwhelmed with trying to keep things straight between different versions. Then I find things like this in the commentary that remind me it‘s completely ok to be struggling to comprehend aspects. Ultimately, it‘s a fascinating look at an author‘s long term process of world building and revision, as well as a son‘s dedication to his father‘s work.

Done with Tinuviel and on to Turambar.

JazzFeathers I find the the change in the names of the character helps me distinguish between versions rather than being confusing. Maybe my mind us strange 🤔 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes Daisey, I find my self struggling with the layers at times too, but it‘s so interesting to see how much he nailed down the first time through, and how much he refined & tightened up later as he wrote and rewrote. I don‘t know if his father would have approved of releasing all his unfinished ‘drafts‘, but I think this collection by Christopher is so very interesting because of the that process that is usually hidden after the final is released 7y
Daisey @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I sometimes wonder the same thing about how he would feel about the publication of these drafts, but I sure do appreciate the opportunity to read them. 7y
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The early version of Turin Turambar's story is both so different and so similar to the later versions! It is possible to see the 'final' form, and still this is a far cry from what it will become.
I thought l didn't really feel to read Turin's story one more time, but this is so fascinating 😍

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Daisey Again, great visual! I hope to start reading this one later tonight. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I completely understand, I thought about skipping it...I don‘t really need to read this tragic tale again, but it‘s again very different and I found it fascinating. 7y
JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey l shouldn't be, l suppose, since l write myself and l know how much a story changed during revision, but l'm still kind of surprised of the change Tolkien's stories went through. It's a strange feeling of knowing exactly what you're reading and still reading it for the first time. 7y
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Ok, New and Revised reading schedule! Sorry guys, these sections seem much larger than in Vol 1, so I spaced them out a bit more. I hope that helps.

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JazzFeathers Thanks so much! This seems a lot more manageable 😄 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers You are very welcome, I too was behind. 7y
Daisey Yay! I might actually catch up tonight with this adapted schedule! I'm still not promising to stay caught up during the week, though. I'm struggling to read these tales in short chunks. I seem to do much better with long dedicated sections, which at this time of the year is usually only on weekends. (edited) 7y
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Well I finally finished Part I, I‘m way behind schedule on this one already.

How‘s everyone else making out? This one is still good, but it‘s not quite pulling me in as much as the last since this first particular story we saw a lot of in the separate “Beren and Luthien” book published later.

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Daisey I'm still on "The Tale of Tinuviel." I finished my other book and then fell asleep reading the notes & commentary. Sounds like we're all reading more slowly than planned. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey I just finished the Notes and Commentary section this morning. So you‘re not alone! Maybe I should have planned 2 days per section, and made the notes and commentary it‘s own section. 🤓 (edited) 7y
JazzFeathers I'm behind too. Finished Tinuviel yesterday night (enjoyed it once more) and l'll start Turambar tonight. But there's no way l'll be able to read all 70 pages in one session. I'll admit l wouldn't mind to have two days per story 😇 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Ok, time for a revamped schedule! 7y
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I'm already late on the schedule and l have a feeling l'll be all through this book. But Hey!

I'm loving reading the early version of this story and trying to guess where later elements come from.
Loved Christopher's examination of the differences between this version and the one in the Silmarillion. It stresses the complexity of later versions, when this story deeply embedded itself in the larger legendatium.

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I really didn't mind reading the story of Beren and Luthien once more and l still find it interesting to read it in the contest of The Cottege of Lost Games frame.

It's so different and it sounds so rough in comparison with the Silmarillion version (well... duh!) But l still love it.

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I‘m spending Easter weekend with my family, which doesn‘t always leave much reading time. Yesterday I helped with the cows in the morning and other things through the day. Today, Dad and I spent the day cleaning up dead trees around the pastures. Tonight I‘m settling in with my book until my sister, her husband, and their kids get home. I really like the evil cats in this early version of “The Tale of Tinuviel.”

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robinb Enjoy your family time...Happy Easter! 😊 7y
Daisey @robinb I plan to! Happy Easter to you too! 🐣 7y
JazzFeathers I'm enjoying rereading Tinuviel too, thought didn't manage to finish The chapter yesterday night... 7y
Daisey @JazzFeathers I didn‘t finish either. I still have the second version and commentary. 7y
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Time for another adventure!

I didn‘t see one made up yet, so hopefully this will work.

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Daisey Thanks! I‘m hoping to start this evening. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey Well it should be easy, I didn‘t realize until I sat down to read it tonight but the preface is really, really short. I probably could‘ve included it with the first section 7y
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JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Well, l'm happy this way, because yesterday night l didn't read in the end. Starting tonight. Really really excited to read the first version of the great stories! 7y
JazzFeathers And thanks for the reading plan. I always feel we're not ready until l see one 😜 7y
Daisey I read a little more than the preface last night, but not much. Then I spent most of today working outside, so we‘ll see how far I get tonight before I crash! I was hoping to read all of the first story, since I probably won‘t have much reading time tomorrow on Easter. 7y
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Hey gals! Do we go today? Or do we hold a bit longer? 😊

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And anyone else who'd like to join is more than welcome 😄🙌🙌

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I thought they all decided to start today, but maybe I missed something in between. I just got home, so I probably won‘t start until later tonight. Did anyone make a schedule yet? 7y
Daisey I was planning to get started this evening. 7y
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Well, l'd say l'm quite ready for a new adventure 😆

Let me know when we are going, gals!

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Daisey I finished Part One tonight, so I‘m ready whenever. 7y
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This is one of my favourite parts in the Silmarillion and this early version is so very different.
I find it interesting that over time the centre of the action and the motives moved from the Valar to the Noldor. This part of the Silmarillion (among my favourite) revolves around Feanor, his grif and his strong head, nothing of which appears here yet.
Here the main conflict is between Melko and the other Valar.

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