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We Are Free to Change the World: Hannah Arendt's Lessons in Love and Disobedience | Lyndsey Stonebridge

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This book was so dense and meaty that I pulled quotes for my review. I can say that I am inclined to read more of Ardent‘s books but feel it would take more than a year & I would certainly need buddy reads,because although I am fascinated the philosophy thanks to the exposure from classes my son took in college,I struggle with processing philosophical thinking. Any takers? #adventuresinphilosophy

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Suet624 I‘m not ready right now but, yes, soon I would be interested (edited) 5d

kspenmoll @Suet624 Sometimes it challenging right now-days I want only escapist reading. I found a penguin reader that dips into her work- maybe I can face that!!!!

The Portable Hannah Arendt

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kspenmoll How is the snow? We have sleet, ice everywhere- cannot go out. Dangerous! 5d

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Suet624 Oh yeah, that penguin reader looks interesting! We are overwhelmed with snow up here. It‘s like time is standing still. No cars, no plows. I feel like it‘s what Vermont used to be, with snow drifts over our heads. I walked to the bakery, a couple of blocks away and got myself a great big cinnamon roll. Just a few people out shoveling . It‘s gorgeous, but a lot. (edited) 5d

kspenmoll @Suet624 I am glad you live close to a bakery- you deserve a treat! Aldo glad you can walk. I got out yesterday for the first time since last Wednesday (in with bronchitis) & it was so refreshing to breathe in the outdoor air! 5d

Suet624 @kspenmoll I‘m glad you got outside. Snowstorm air is spectacular. 5d

TheBookHippie In a couple months yes! I preordered this yes I know pricey and Amazon but I preordered a year ago!! https://a.co/d/62iIAb3 however any of her books I‘d reread! I‘ve not read most since my 20s and I have no problem buying copies. 5d

ravenlee I got The Origins of Totalitarianism recently, so I‘d be game for a buddy read at some point. 4d

kspenmoll @TheBookHippie I have the older copy, not expanded, with intro by historian Anne Applebaum. 4d

TheBookHippie @kspenmoll @ravenlee I‘m up for anything. I wanted to get her books to own anyway. 4d

ravenlee @kspenmoll @TheBookHippie my copy is the same, with the Applebaum intro. 4d

GingerAntics You‘re done already? I‘m still struggling my way through it. 4d

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GingerAntics

Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness | Peter Godfrey-Smith

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How is it going, ladies? Anyone else troubled that E. Coli can SMELL YOU?! I wonder if probiotics can sense when you‘re about to take them? Do they get lonely when I forget to take them for a while? The poor dears.
#PeterGodfreySmith #OtherMinds #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
@TheBookHippie @ravenlee @JaclynW @RavenLovelyReads @AlaSkaat @Chrissyreadit @kspenmoll @bnp

kspenmoll 😂😂😂 lonely probiotics! 5d

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I know. I feel so bad for them. Don‘t tell them I can‘t find them right now. 4d

AlaSkaat I somehow lost the book. Where / how ??? but new one is coming tomorrow so I shall get back to this haha 3d

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GingerAntics @AlaSkaat oh my, really? That‘s horrible! I hate when that happens. Of course, as soon as the new one arrives, the original copy will appear. lol It‘s a law of physics or something. You got this. You‘re going awesome! 3d

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat it didn‘t arrive with like an alternate cover or something, did it? 2d

AlaSkaat @GingerAntics unfortunately I did not find the lost book. Where it could be I have absolutely no idea. I haven‘t lost a book in like… a week. I‘m kidding lol. But seriously it just disappeared! The new one came in good shape so I‘m back to reading 📖 2d

AlaSkaat I did find this book for free on Archive online, but I prefer physical copies for this, especially if I‘m to mark something interesting 2d

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat totally agree that adding notes is easier in physical copies. 100% I‘m glad you got your new copy. Perhaps someone saw it, thought it looked interesting, and wandered off with it. You have inadvertently spread knowledge. Good work! 2d

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Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness | Peter Godfrey-Smith

So next time you get food poisoning, just know that it smelled you coming!
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kspenmoll Thanks for the humor!!!😂 5d

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I found this fact to get terrifying!!! 4d

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ravenlee

Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness | Peter Godfrey-Smith

A good description of philosophy, if a bit counterintuitive.
#adventuresinphilosophy #OtherMinds #DeadPhilosophersSociety @GingerAntics @AlaSkaat @TheBookHippie @JaclynW @RavenLovelyReads @Chrissyreadit @kspenmoll @bnp

GingerAntics I feel like that‘s a bit reductionist. That is certainly SOME philosophy. To say it is largely like that is an over generalisation at the least. 1w

ravenlee @GingerAntics it is reductionist, but I feel like it‘s reductionist in a way to simplify for accessibility. As opposed to depicting philosophy as a bunch of loners engaged in never-ending navel-gazing while the world spins out of control beyond the ivory tower. It makes it feel, to me, like philosophy is something everybody can and does do. 1w

GingerAntics @ravenlee that‘s fair 1w

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kspenmoll

Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness | Peter Godfrey-Smith

Started this tonight. This book totally engaged me- all new learning. I am keeping to the schedule @GingerAntics set, so I can take it slow, digest & process what I am absorbing. #adventuresinphilosophy

GingerAntics This is a great book, isn‘t it? I‘ve only read the first chapter so far, but it‘s wonderful! 2w

kspenmoll @GingerAntics I am loving the author‘s approach- he is making this unknown world accessible for me! 1w

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I feel like he‘s making multiple things more accessible. Philosophy, marine biology. 1w

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Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness | Peter Godfrey-Smith

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Scuba Diving Philosophy. Thoughts so far?
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kspenmoll I had to read slowly & felt I could note the whole chapter but I broke it down to a few thoughts that spoke to me. What the author writes of & his ocean world is totally new to me. 2w

GingerAntics @kspenmoll yeah, I was actually worried at first it wasn‘t philosophy, but he brought it around beautifully. I think this book is going to be an awesome adventure. I like the linking of the ocean world and ours. 2w

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I even ended up looking up octopus eyes. lol 2w

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AlaSkaat My questions from last week were answered, haha 2w

AlaSkaat I forgot how much I liked biology, especially when it‘s in this form! I think I will enjoy this one. I can‘t say I know much about it though, but basically the octopus is a fluke? lol. Went down the wrong line maybe 2w

AlaSkaat An intelligent alien. - I‘m still confused. Does he mean the octopus can experience things as we can? Dolphins and such are very smart… but do they have consciousness? Can they ‘observe‘ the world? 🤷‍♀️ 2w

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat the dolphin brain comes from the same place our brain does, evolutionarily. The octopus brain evolved from a different line. So its brain is fundamentally unique from all other intelligent brains on earth. That‘s what I got from the intelligent alien comment. 2w

AlaSkaat Aa that makes sense. Looking forward to reading more about that 2w

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat it is a truly unique perspective to think about… consciousness through octopi. 2w

ravenlee @AlaSkaat Dolphins have passed the mirror test, a standard test for self-awareness, and demonstrate long-term learning strategies. Without being able to communicate with them about their intellectual lives, that might be as close as we can get to saying they have consciousness. 1w

ravenlee @GingerAntics I like that the author is using philosophy to make the science more accessible, and the science to make the philosophy more accessible. Tying together two intimidating specialties in a way that both become less off-putting. 1w

GingerAntics @ravenlee the dolphins taking the mirror test is also beyond adorable! 100% agree about the accessibility point. He‘s really brought in a sense of wonder for all of it. It‘s wonderful! It‘s fun to read. 1w

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We Are Free to Change the World: Hannah Arendt's Lessons in Love and Disobedience | Lyndsey Stonebridge

“What is being claimed is the right to have rights.”

Boy, isn‘t that just the nail on the head today.

#HannahArendt #adventuresinphilosophy #WeAreFreetoChangetheWorld

TheBookHippie 😩🎯 2w

kspenmoll Yes! 😱 2w

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ravenlee

We Are Free to Change the World: Hannah Arendt's Lessons in Love and Disobedience | Lyndsey Stonebridge

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#HannahArendt #adventuresinphilosophy #WeAreFreetoChangetheWorld

TheBookHippie Yup. 2w

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ravenlee

We Are Free to Change the World: Hannah Arendt's Lessons in Love and Disobedience | Lyndsey Stonebridge

Empathy. Being able to understand, to care about other people. What happened to it?

#HannahArendt #adventuresinphilosophy #WeAreFreetoChangetheWorld

TheBookHippie Compassion what day did it die. … 2w

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GingerAntics

Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness | Peter Godfrey-Smith

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Let‘s call this discussion 0.5, because I‘m not sure what we can discuss from the page/page and a half that was the (edit) epigraph. If you haven‘t started yet, you are not even close to behind yet. lol It‘s literally two quotes. No worries.
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kspenmoll My library edition, 2016 has no epilogue, just a half page of 2 quotes. Is that what you mean or is there a newer edition? (edited) 3w

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I have the 2016 digital edition. It starts with a quote from William James and then has one from Roland Dixon. It‘s an epigraph, not an epilogue. I missed that before. 3w

AlaSkaat I‘m not sure if I‘m still hangover from the wedding I attended on Saturday, but I do not understand that first quote at all! lol. 3w

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GingerAntics @AlaSkaat it‘s a complicated sort of strolling quote. I‘m not sure I understand it either. I have a feeling the book itself will give us more information, and possibly explain it indirectly. I don‘t think it‘s all that important. 3w

ravenlee @AlaSkaat I think (part of) what James is saying is that it‘s lazy scholarship/philosophy/science to say “wow, this ability/adaptation just appeared out of nowhere! That‘s so weird!” It‘s our responsibility to look from different angles to find the precursor(s) to less-obvious phenomena. 1w

GingerAntics @ravenlee very valid point! 1w

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