The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans

The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Bookwomble Oh, I listened to Hugh Bonneville narrating this one earlier in the week. I like this story 😊 1d

Bookwomble I think Holmes had Cadogan-West down for it initially, to his evident disappointment as he expressed increasing regret that the evidence was stacking against him. Once he had ruled him out, I think Johnson, the senior clerk, was next on his list. His failure to consider that a member of the aristocratic family of Sir James Walter was the culprit is an example, I think, of Holmes's class prejudice. 1d

Bookwomble As for the lax security, Imperial arrogance and an assumption of security and inviolability? Who, actually, would have the effrontery to trespass into the sacred groves of Empire? I guess today we might call it privilege 1d

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Librarybelle Completely agree on both counts, @Bookwomble . It‘s also good to see that Holmes is actually human and does think incorrectly from time to time. 12h

dabbe @Bookwomble True, Johnson would be the logical choice. Still, there is nothing in particular to make one suspect Johnson. He's only in one scene, and says and does nothing to make anyone suspicious of him. Perhaps Doyle should have made him more suspicious to the reader--at least this one! 🤩 10h

dabbe @Bookwomble 🎯! 10h

dabbe @Librarybelle @Bookwomble And that he does have the humility to admit it, even calling himself an “ass!“ 🤣 10h

dabbe @Librarybelle @Bookwomble I also am left wondering this: why did Oberstein leave copies of the agony ads lying about? He seemed to have destroyed all of the other evidence. Did he forget about them? Was he planning to use them and come back to blackmail Valentine later? It seems unbelievably sloppy (and lucky for Holmes). 10h

Bookwomble I guess Oberstein is no Moriarty! 3h

eeclayton Well they did have 3 keys, then again, there's a mention of Sir James having kept the 3 keys on the same ring, if I'm not mistaken 🤦
I was wondering about his death, too, I don't think it's ever explained. Suicide? Accident? Knowing who the culprit was in the main case, could he have a hand in it?
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Librarybelle I thought Mycroft‘s comparison of himself to Holmes was interesting—sure, he could solve the crime too, but Holmes is better at ferreting out the truth by visiting locations and talking to people. Imagine those dinner time conversations growing up! 😂 12h

dabbe @Librarybelle Mycroft may be superior in intellect (even Sherlock has stated this), but Sherlock has grit and mettle to add to his capability in solving a case. Mycroft might be the British government at times, But Holmes is the detective I would want on my case. 🤣 10h

Librarybelle Me too, @dabbe ! 😂 9h

Read4life I did like having more of Mycroft in this one. Sherlock is humble when he speaks of Mycroft‘s superior intellect & Mycroft praises Sherlock in a way that is very cerebral vs the way praise is heaped on him by detectives & clients. 6h

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Bookwomble Given his previous experiences in such cases, Holmes might have had more regard for the family members of the principles that first came to his notice. The laxity of security seems curious, until you remember the relatively recent instances of heads of state communicating on insecure channels or storing government secrets in the toilets of their holiday homes 🗃️🚽 🧐 1d

TheLudicReader I tell my students 3 is a magic number in writing all the time. 🤓 22h

dabbe @TheLudicReader Did you ever watch Schoolhouse Rock? For multiplication, they had a song entitled (wait for it) “3 is a Magic Number.“ It has stuck in my head since I was a kid. If you want to watch it, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8lRKCw2_Pk

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Librarybelle Yes, @Bookwomble —thinking of security and then the current era of “security” of state secrets. Also, the threats from the East are still threats today. 12h

dabbe @Librarybelle @Bookwombile Interesting to also note that in every one of these so-called espionages, all of the criminals were family members! And in all three stories, it was only blind luck that kept these documents from being leaked or getting into the wrong hands. 10h

Bookwomble @Librarybelle @dabbe Subverting an insider is probably a more common tool of espionage than the high jinks of Mission Impossible. 3h

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Bookwomble I like this story, despite Doyle's typical slapdash approach to certain details. As a storyteller, he's more concerned with atmosphere than accuracy, and what would we have to talk about were it otherwise? 😁 1d

Daisey I enjoyed this one! 14h

Librarybelle This was a good one! 12h

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dabbe @Bookwomble Oh, I think atmosphere is so much fun to talk about! In this one, what about the dense fog? Its yellow oils dripping on the window! And would we even have this mystery without it? To me, it was the main character! 🤩 10h

dabbe @Daisey @Librarybelle Yay! I did, too! The body on the train scene reminded me of the film noir from the 40s, DOUBLE INDEMNITY. If you like those kind of movies, you should see it. It's INCREDIBLE! 🤩 10h

Read4life I agree that this was a good one. I could “feel” the fog not just “see” it. 6h

Bookwomble The yellowness and oily quality of the fog tells us that it was actually smog, a poisonous brew of hydrocarbon fumes from millions of coal fires and steam-powered engines supported by a global empire that provided some with great affluence, but which fueled the international conflicts of which espionage was an aspect. No empire, no global war, no military-industrial complex, no submarine plans, no murder, no case for Holmes to investigate. 👇 3h

Bookwomble The smog is a metaphor for the rot at the heart of empire, though I'm certain Doyle didn't intend it as such. 3h

eeclayton I enjoyed this story and agree that the fog added an eerie and sinister atmosphere. 59m

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The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans | Arthur Conan Doyle

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The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Sorry for such a late post, Sherlockians. The website has been wonky all week and is finally running smoothly again. Discussion for this one will be this Saturday and will be led by @dabbe. Happy Spring Equinox and Happy almost Friday!

Link to summar/analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-w4WE0kX1_Q4MPFCwVKfut3J0dqfP-v5/view

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The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Sorry for such a late post, Sherlockians. The website has been wonky all week and is finally running smoothly again. Discussion for this one will be this Saturday and will be led by @dabbe. Happy Spring Equinox and Happy almost Friday!

Link to summar/analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-w4WE0kX1_Q4MPFCwVKfut3J0dqfP-v5/view?usp=shari...

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Librarybelle Thank you! 3d

dabbe @Librarybelle YW! 🤩 3d

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