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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks I feel for Roderick, I don't like the way prisoners are treated. The gaelor I hate. He is cruel and reluctant to listen to Shardlake. I like the older lawer and feel for him as he knows he is dying. I'm not sure about the young girl Barack is involved with. 3d

Mollyanna I like Wrenne, but I feel he‘s hiding more than his illness. I hope I‘m wrong. Tamasin is an interesting character, and a different perspective. Maleverer and Radwinter are bullies 😛 3d

OutsmartYourShelf I wondered if Radwinter was based on John Sage, notorious torturer who worked for Edward I. All round nasty piece of work by all accounts.

Malevever - is that a clue? Mal- meaning evil or bad. Probably overthinking it.

Tamasin - you know if you had a line up of the love interests in these books I'm not sure I'd be able to differentiate between any of them. All very samey in character. 3d

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dabbe @LiseWorks Agree 💯. I also wonder if Broderick might be poisoning himself somehow because he knows what's going to happen to him if he makes it to London. And to be in a cell where you look out the window and see your best friend's bones hanging there. How horrific was this society! 3d

dabbe @Mollyanna I like Wrenne, too. I wonder if there's more in that library of his. And it's a necessary plot point (I think) to have Tamasin inside the queen's quarters. I bet we're going to get more of her insider views in the 2nd half of the book. 3d

dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf I have no idea re: Page--interesting idea! Love your thought of “mal“ meaning evil. I'll add to that: his name ends in “ever“ as in evil forever maybe?

So far, the Tamasin-Barak love interest is similar to the one in DISSOLUTION. We'll have to see if that changes in the 2nd half. 🤩 3d

kwmg40 I liked most of these fictional characters, and Sansom is good at making each of them a little bit mysterious, hinting at some interesting backstory that may be revealed as the novel progresses. 2d

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dabbe

Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks I always felt sorry for Henry as he really wasn't raised to be the king. I think his injury really changed his personality as medical Doctors of the time failed him. He was also surrounded by ambitious men who influenced him. 3d

Mollyanna I find Lady Rocheford intriguing, especially wondering what her true motivations were in the Boleyn affair and after. Was she really against her husband or simply trying to survive as a woman in tumultuous times? 3d

Karisimo Sansom definitely portrayed King Henry completely unlikeable, especially for how he treated his wives as disposable. Could he have had some redeeming quality in real life? It's hard to imagine. 3d

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OutsmartYourShelf Henry VIII - really dislikeable in this book & I have a feeling that it may have been close to the truth.

Catherine Howard - felt sorry for her in that she didn't have much of a choice once Henry decided to marry her. Very foolish for keeping Culpepper & Dereham around her.

Lady Rochford - absolute snake in that she gave evidence about Anne Boleyn's supposed dalliances & yet facilitated Catherine Howard's. 3d

kwmg40 Most of the real-life characters are shown to be far from admirable, and I suspect the portrayals are truer than ones I've seen of them in other historical fiction about the Tudor period. 2d

lil1inblue @kwmg40 I agree! There was so much treachery and violence during this period, I cannot imagine that they were warm and fuzzy people. While the era intrigues me, I've never liked Henry VIII. He always seemed like the epitome of the patriarchy to me. 2d

dabbe @kwmg40 🎯!!! 2d

dabbe @lil1inblue And quite a few heads were lopped off during his reign. Yikes! 😱 2d

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dabbe

Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks I like Barak, we are getting to know him better but I'm leary of the girlfriend. The women in this era have to attach themselves to men in order to survive. Shardlake has to trust this man to get help solving this case. They make a good team 3d

Mollyanna I‘ve enjoyed the evolution of their relationship. Although not equals they seem to be on similar footing. Barak is beginning to look to the future, something I don‘t think he did before meeting Shardlake. 3d

OutsmartYourShelf In this book it seems to be a replay of Mark Poer (meeting a woman & reconsidering his future). I think that Shardlake & Barak are more friendly, even though Barak works for Shardlake. I think Barak needs to come up with a few more pithy comebacks rather than just “arseholes“ every time. 3d

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dabbe @LiseWorks They do, don't they? I also am leery of Tamasin. She's quite forceful when she wants something, and right now, she wants Barak. 3d

dabbe @Mollyanna And Barak has saved Shardlake's life more than once, and Shardlake is deeply indebted to him. I think he didn't like Tamasin at the beginning because he's jealous and doesn't want to lose his friendship with Barak. 3d

dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf It seems mighty similar, doesn't it? Though for some reason I like Tamasin more--so far anyway. And yes. Let's get beyond “arsehole“ Barak! 😂 3d

kwmg40 I liked very much the development of the relationship between Shardlake and Barak. We see Barak maturing in different ways, but he still has that brashness and toughness that make him such an interesting character. 2d

lil1inblue Love the graphic for this one. 😉 I really enjoy the contrast of Barak and Shardlake's characters. They challenge each other, and that allows growth for both characters. I'm behind, but I am intrigued to see how Tamasin plays in the whole thing. I can see the seeds of conflict being planted... 2d

dabbe @lil1inblue Like a love/bro triangle for sure! 🤩 2d

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dabbe

Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks Everyone is excited in a way about the king's presence but yet terrified by the king's presence . This is a perfect setting for murder 3d

Mollyanna The removal from London and “civilized” society and to the land of the barbarians definitely amps things up. It has taken the entire court (and us) out of their comfort zone. 3d

Karisimo I enjoyed the nuances brought in by the setting in a different region. I enjoyed learning more about the political dynamics too. I think the setting gave Shardlake and others a sense of not being in control- they didn't have their normal connections and colleagues. Even the weather was unsettling. 3d

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OutsmartYourShelf I've been to York several times. It has a lot of small, narrow lanes & it would have been even worse then with how buildings were crammed in together & the smell. The arrival of the Progress & all the hangers-on adds to the feeling of Shardlake being hemmed in with nowhere to escape in the sense that he has been manoeuvred into this job & can't leave. There's also the fact that York was a focal point of dissent as discussed in the book. 3d

dabbe @Liseworks @Mollyanna @Karisimo @OutsmartYourShelf WOWZA I'm blown away by all of your answers! Thanks for giving us a peak into York, @OutsmartYourShelf. 🤩🤩🤩

The gloomy, isolated city of York provides an ideal backdrop for the novel‘s atmosphere of secrecy and danger. The distance from London amplifies Shardlake‘s sense of isolation and vulnerability, making him feel surrounded by possible enemies. 3d

kwmg40 I liked the setting and agree with the earlier comments here. What especially contributed to the sense of danger was the clash in values of the two groups -- the wealthy visitors from the south and the oppressed local people. The latter lacked power but had the numbers and an intense hatred of the southerners. 2d

dabbe @kwmg40 And they almost won! 2d

lil1inblue I agree with @kwmg40. The clash between the locals and the southerners really amps up the danger. Shardlake and the southerners are essentially foreigners, adding an element of the unknown to the suspense. 2d

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dabbe

Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks This poor man is in a bad situation. He wants to do the right thing but literally just can't. 3d

Mollyanna I think Shardlake‘s reluctance shows how his recent past has a large influence on his emotions and thoughts. 3d

Karisimo He wasn't really given a choice in the matter so that puts him on edge. 3d

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OutsmartYourShelf He's caught between a rock & a hard place. He can't afford to offend Cranmer esp now his patron is no more, but I think he finds the secret mission part distasteful, knowing that the prisoner will face torture if Shardlake does his job & keeps him alive. 3d

dabbe @Liseworks @Mollyanna @Karisimo @OutsmartYourShelf 🎯!!! Shardlake is one conflicted lawyer who is at the absolute mercy of Cranmer (and formerly Cromwell). It's literally his life or Broderick's in this secret mission, and he feels horrible at the task that is laid before him. He truly cares about everyone, and that makes us care even more about him and the no-win situations he ends up in. 3d

kwmg40 I think his reluctance shows clearly the lack of freedom that many people experienced in that time period, where one can face execution for disagreeing with powerful people. 2d

dabbe @kwmg40 And always having to watch your back--double problem for Shardlake. 2d

lil1inblue Poor Shardlake - he just can't catch a break. 😂 He wants so badly to do the right thing, but is constantly at the mercy of these power hungry men! He is a man of grey areas and nuance stuck in a culture of black and white thinking. 2d

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Sovereign | C. J. Sansom

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Just a friendly reminder of tomorrow's chat! Can't wait to read what you're all thinking! 🤩

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dabbe

Dark Fire: A Shardlake Novel 2 | C. J. Sansom

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Playing catch-up. A fantastic read, btw.

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes I‘m working on this series. It‘s fantastic! 7d

dabbe @Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes If you'd like to join our online group, I'll happily add you to our list. It's very low key. We take 2 months for each book. I post a few questions if anyone wants to chime in. That's it. We've been having lots of fun with it. Our hashtag is #ShardlakeSeriesBR. Let me know if you want to be added to the list. 🤩 7d

kspenmoll You gave the first book, Dissolution, which is on my November list.❤️ 7d

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dabbe @kspenmoll I noticed it was on your Litsy TBR list, so of course I had to get it for you! I hope you like it. And if you want to join our group, too, just let me know. We are as low-key as it gets, and so far, everyone's loving the series! 🖤🧡🖤 6d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes @dabbe That sounds like fun! Sure, add me to the list. Thanks for inviting me. 🙂 (edited) 6d

dabbe @Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes Yay! You are now “officially“ a Shardlakian! 🤩 Here is the link to our reading schedule: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eAN-x05PKdbqTWefMq92zc88GYESi46e/view?usp=shari...

Glad to have you in our group! 🤩😀🤗 6d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes @dabbe Yay! 😊 5d

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kwmg40

Sovereign | C. J. Sansom

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I loved this installment of the Shardlake series, set in the later years of Henry VIII's reign. It's an excellent historical mystery with great characters (both real and fictional) and lots of political intrigue. I'm looking forward to discussing with the #ShardlakeSeriesBR group. @dabbe

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Texreader Shardlake is awesome! 1w

dabbe I'm savoring it and limiting myself to only 2 chapters a day just to enjoy it all the more! The 30th will be here soon! 🤩 1w

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kwmg40 @dabbe I tried to read only half of it this month, so I could be more in sync with the buddy read, but once I got going, I couldn‘t stop! 1w

kwmg40 @Texreader I couldn‘t agree more! I love this series. 1w

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 1w

TheSpineView Fantastic! 1w

dabbe @kwmg40 Did you like it more than DARK FIRE? 7d

kwmg40 @dabbe I liked Dark Fire very much, but I do think I like this one better, probably because I'm really warming up to Barak as a character. 7d

dabbe @kwmg40 He is adorable, isn't he? 🤩 7d

Catsandbooks 👏🏼👻🧡 6d

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LiseWorks

Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

#BoddyDoubleReadaton #CozyReadathon #HauntedShelf #FrightClub Not a very good reading weekend, only managed 250 pages of Sovereign @Jadams89 @PuddleJumper @Bookwormjillk

PuddleJumper 🎉🎉 You're doing great! 3w

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Divorced, Beheaded, Survived: A Feminist Reinterpretation of the Wives of Henry VIII | Karen Lindsey

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Scholarly but very readable. I enjoyed this look at Tudor women, focusing on the wives, yes, but also others of the era. There are a lot of characters to keep straight in Henry VIII‘s court, but it gets easier with each book I read.

Melismatic Reminds me of the musical ‘Six‘! 💜 3w

Lcsmcat @Melismatic I read somewhere that this was the inspiration for that musical. 3w

Melismatic Oh I love that!! 🥳 3w

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