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Daisey

Heartstone: A Matthew Shardlake Tudor Mystery | C. J. Sansom

This one reads slower than the previous one to me, but I‘m still thoroughly intrigued.

#ShardlakeBR

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AnneCecilie

Nancy Drew 17: Mystery of the Brass-Bound Trunk | Carolyn Keene

#WeeklyForecast

I don‘t have any plans for the upcoming week, so I hope to get some reading done

Continue my yearlong reads

Continue the buddy reads; Pride and Prejudice #PemberLittens #JaneAustenThenAndNow, Heartstone #ShardlakeBR, Start of the Sea #BookedInTime and Entitled #SheSaid

I want to finish The Mystery of the Brass-Bound Trunk

I want to read Anything is Possible and hopefully Eurotrash so I get a start on the book by Tiller

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AnneCecilie

Nancy Drew 17: Mystery of the Brass-Bound Trunk (Revised) | Carolyn Keene

#BookReport

I finished Private Revolutions and on audio The Christmas Bookshop

I kept up reading my yearlong reads on the right

I kept up with the buddy reads; Pride and Prejudice #PemberLittens #JaneAustenThenAndNow, Heartstone #ShardlakeBR, Star of the Sea #BookedInTime and Entitled #SheSaid

I‘ve also started Reservoir Bitches and Mystery of the Bass-Bunk Trunk #NancyDrewBR

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AnneCecilie

The Christmas Bookshop: A Novel | Jenny Colgan

#WeeklyForecast

Continue with my yearlong reads on the right

Continue listening to the tagged

I might be a little over ambitious this month and joining in on four buddy reads: Heartstone #ShardlakeBR, Pride and Prejudice #PemberLittensb#JaneAustenThenAndNow, Entitled #SheSaid and Star of the Sea #BookedInTime

I‘m about to start The Coast Road and also want to get a start on Private Revolutions

Jess861 Read The Coast Road a few months ago and it was an enjoyable read. Kept forgetting it was set in the 90s while reading! 3w

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AnneCecilie

Revelation: A Shardlake Novel 4 | C. J. Sansom

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A friend and colleague of Shardlake is found murdered and Shardlake promises the widow that he will find the killer. This leads to the discovery of more related murders as someone is killing according to one of the stories in the Book of Revelation.

At the same time Shardlake gets appointed the lawyer to Adam Kite. A young man who won‘t do anything besides praying who for his own protection has been sent to the asylum. This give Sansom to explore

AnneCecilie the treatment of mental health during the Tudor and shows the conditions in which they lived in. I loved each new Shardlake crime more than the last since we get to know the characters more. I‘m so happy that #ShardlakeBR has me rereading this amazing crime series. @dabbe 3w

dabbe Excellent review! So glad we're reading these together! 🤩🤗🤩 3w

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LitsyEvents

Revelation. C.J. Sansom | C J Sansom

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#ShardlakeSeriesBR #ShardlakeBR

Fascinating discussion today Shardlakians!

Next up: HEARTSTONE

dabbe Thank you! 🤗 3w

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dabbe

Revelation. C.J. Sansom | C J Sansom

#ShardlakeSeriesBR #ShardlakeBR @LItsyEvents

Fascinating discussion today, Shardlakians!

Next up: HEARTSTONE. The events of this novel take place in the summer of 1545. Shardlake and Barak travel to Portsmouth on a legal case given to them by an old servant of Queen Catherine Parr. The book also concerns preparations for the Battle of the Solent and the King's warship, the MARY ROSE. Elizabeth I makes an appearance or two, too! 🤩

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dabbe

Revelation. C.J. Sansom | C J Sansom

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Thoughts, Shardlakians?

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OutsmartYourShelf Back then, people in England had the 'comfort' of thinking that hardships were part of God's plan & that the afterlife would make up for any suffering on earth. I have a hard time reconciling in my mind a God that loves humankind but would allow His worshippers to suffer excruciating deaths in His name. The death for treason was horrific whilst being burned at the stake would be bad enough. 3w

OutsmartYourShelf “they confuse their own needs, for certainty or power, with God's voice speaking to them.“ We know that Henry VIII was one of these.

Also how many others over the centuries (even talking 20th century with the cult leaders) have claimed to have had the truth revealed to them by God, & somehow it involves them being in charge, getting rich, &/or having many lovers. Really odd that🤔 /s 3w

LiseWorks The greatest wars were about religion. I remember a priest telling me that members of the Congregation should not read the Bible because they can't understand it. I have read my Bible since I was given one in grade 5 ( when they used to give Bibles in school). I was so shocked. This was in 1981. How ignorant of that man telling me a woman that I could not read a book or understand it. No wonder ordinary people were kept in the dark. 3w

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dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf Excellent thoughts. The more I see the horrors unleashed in this world, the harder it is for me to believe. And just saying “God works in mysterious ways“ is NOT an answer to the amount of suffering that goes on. If God gets credit for all the good that happens (I see a person praising God for winning a game), he also gets the blame for the bad. Otherwise, we're living in chaos, which is what I do believe to be true. 3w

dabbe @LiseWorks Beyond ignorant. Aggrandizingly arrogant IMHO. 3w

lil1inblue This was a wonderful quote. It was a confusing, uncertain era, where things changed based on who was whispering in the king's ear that day. Those in power used religion as a way to maintain control or to gain power. They manipulated "god's word" to fit their ends. Meanwhile, the general population was left confused and afraid. And fear and confusion are often the seeds for extreme behavior. 3w

dabbe @lil1inblue You're more easily led, too, if you're afraid and think you have nowhere to turn to. 3w

lil1inblue @dabbe 🎯🎯🎯 3w

AnneCecilie The Tudor time along with many others just proves to me all the wrongs that have been done in the name of religion and that extremism in any form is never a good thing. (edited) 3w

dabbe @AnneCecilie Too many wrongs to name. And whose religion is the right one? Why do we have to persecute in the name of our religion? These thoughts have led me to become an agnostic. 3w

AnneCecilie @dabbe I‘m not sure what I am, but I love in a very secular society so it doesn‘t really matter. I have enough distance to it to see that religion isn‘t all good. 3w

dabbe @AnneCecilie Did I ever ask where you're from? I wish things were more secular here. 3w

AnneCecilie @dabbe I‘m from Norway. Religion isn‘t a big thing here. There‘s a very low percentage that visits the church during the year. I hade to google and it says that each Norwegian on average visits the church 0,59 times during a year. I would think that most of these visits are during Christmas and Easter. 3w

dabbe @AnneCecilie You live in the most beautiful of countries! I was lucky enough to visit there back in 1990. My 1st husband's submarine was stationed there after breaking through the ice at the Arctic Circle. We spent most of our time in Bergen, and it's one of my five favorite places on this planet! The people were the friendliest folks, too. Where do you live? ❣️🇳🇴❣️ 3w

kwmg40 I love what this quotation says about humility. It seems that, so many centuries later, the mix of politics, religion, power and economics can still cause a lot of upheaval in the world. 3w

dabbe @kwmg40 Agree 💯. Imagine where we'd be if more leaders were more humble. 3w

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dabbe

Revelation. C.J. Sansom | C J Sansom

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Thoughts, Shardlakians?

OutsmartYourShelf It must have been a very confusing & dangerous time to live in. Henry VIII 'reforms' the Church, ripping away what has been a constant for centuries, & then as he gets older he starts walking it back in some ways.

The constant changing of those in power or favour - one minute you are high in the King's favour, the next your head is on a block. For the masses, there is the spectre of torture & execution for doing/saying the wrong thing. 3w

LiseWorks Being in London for a lot of people was in poverty. I would have lived in the country. The king was mad at the end. Being sick was not helping. His drs didn't know how to treat his leg. Can you imagine how much pain he was in? 3w

dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf I can't even imagine living in such uncertain times. Everyone had to be walking around constantly looking behind them. Who could like like that? 3w

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dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf I'd probably want to live far enough away, too, to avoid getting caught doing anything wrong. But who knew what that was since it changed on a daily basis? 3w

lil1inblue The religious extremism and fanaticism really struck me, perhaps because there are echoes of those themes in our current times. Sansom seems to show that much of the extremism is the result of fear and uncertainty, which I can't help but compare to today, as well. 3w

dabbe @lil1inblue Agree 💯. And unfortunately, too many politicians and people in power know just how to stoke your fears and make you worry. At least we don't have to worry about getting our heads stuck on a pike, though, so there's that. 👊🏻 3w

AnneCecilie This most have been a hard time to live in. Especially for the common person where religious beliefs changes constantly and you can‘t expect to get justice if someone thinks you‘re doing anything wrong. It highlights know your friends because you must always be careful of who you say what to. 3w

Daisey @lil1inblue I also was more struck by the aspects of religious extremism when I read it this second time compared to several years ago because of how I see more of it in our current world now as well. 3w

dabbe @AnneCecilie IKR? One day they're Catholic, the next Protestant, the next who the heck knows? All on the king's whim, God's supposed representative on earth. What a representative! 😱 3w

dabbe @Daisey 🎯🎯🎯! 3w

kwmg40 It does come across as a very chaotic time. I found interesting the way politics mixed with religion and how ordinary people's lives were changed as different religious factions gained and regained power. 3w

dabbe @kwmg40 And it could change in a heartbeat! Today we're Catholic; oh, no we're not. Yikes! 3w

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dabbe

Revelation. C.J. Sansom | C J Sansom

#ShardlakeSeriesBR #ShardlakeBR

Thoughts, Shardlakians?

OutsmartYourShelf I think a serial killer is classified as someone who kills more than 3 victims in separate killings. If someone killed several people at once, in one 'hit' as it were, I wouldn't consider them a serial killer.

The popular image is of a clever, fiendish killer who plans out their kills. The jury is still out on whether Jack the Ripper was clever or insane & remarkably lucky to get away with the murders. 3w

LiseWorks Bedlam reminded me that the medical community did not have a clue about mental health. When a lot of people are killed by one person at the same time, it's called a mass killing. Jack the Ripper was a serial killer. Something happened to him because those killings stopped, and that's why he was never caught. 3w

dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf Agree 💯. If a person kills a bunch of people at once, I'd probably consider them a mass murderer but not necessarily a serial killer. RE: Jack the Ripper, it's hard to say. I guess I'd call him clever in his choosing of marginalized women that no one cared about. 3w

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dabbe @LiseWorks One of the greatest serial killer mysteries of all time! 3w

lil1inblue What makes a person insane is such a great question. Adam Kite was trying to deal with something he didn't understand Ellen is agoraphobic, but is utterly competent when she's inside. 3w

lil1inblue It seems as though many of these people just had differences people didn't know how to deal with, so they locked them away. 3w

dabbe @lil1inblue 🎯! Who gets to decide? The doctors? The families who can't deal with you? Guy knew that Adam just needed love and the right touch. I can't believe the horrors that have been unleashed in this world all in the name of someone's so-called religion. #ranttime 3w

dabbe @lil1inblue I just wrote that before reading this! So true! 🎯 3w

AnneCecilie Insanity seems to be when someone behaves differently than what society excepts/ wants. At this time, I would guess it was enough if the man of the family said someone was insane, to get them locked up. A serial killer is someone who kills on numerous occasions. I‘m going to assume that they have “always” existed, but in times before fingerprints, DNA and other technologies it was easier to get away. (edited) 3w

dabbe @AnneCecilie Excellent reminder about the fingerprints. And yes, serial killers have probably been around as long as we humans have. 3w

kwmg40 I found Sansom's exploration of mental illness and his investigation into the motivations of the serial killer really interesting. I've read many novels that had scenes in or references to Bedlam, but this novel has made me want to learn more about its history. 3w

dabbe @kwmg40 Me, too, though I'm afraid it would depress the hell out of me. What an intense time period to live in--especially if you're in an asylum! 3w

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