Good day #SheSaid another week has flown by… and in the US the holidays are soon upon us. How are you making out with this week‘s reading, I personally am struggling a bit with the drier telling which is such a contrast to The Warmth of Other Suns which I‘m also reading right now. I learning much, but also looking forward to our fiction choice for next month😂. I also have an important question this week, there is a group read starting in ⤵️
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ January for the 1619 Project. I think that is a great book to read as a group too, but I know it can be hard for some to read multiple non-fiction books a month. So my question is, do we want to join in on that read Jan-May, 1 essay a week… and just push back our schedule 5 months, basically break for that and then pick up where we left off when it finishes? What do you think? Would that be helpful? Doable? Or not? 3y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa The 1619 Project read is hosted by @4thhouseontheleft if anyone would like to check out her post for more information 3y
vlwelser I'm guessing you would like to do this if you're bringing it up. Count me as a vote toward whatever you want to do. Because I honestly have no opinion and will do either option. 3y
vlwelser Regarding this week's reading, I'm struggling a bit with her writing style but I think this is amazingly well researched and I'm learning a lot about people I didn't know about. But it's not prompting me to google things for more details. 3y
megnews I am putting hosting any non fiction on hold til 1619 Project is done too. For one, this was a selection I had in mind and two, getting through non fiction can be difficult for me. Already pushing myself with the amount I‘ve been reading. I‘d support whatever you decided…not always able to join in anyway. 3y
megnews In regards to this week‘s reading, I finished up on audio and it‘s hard for me to separate out this and next week‘s sections. Overall, I think I learned a lot about historical figures I never heard of as well as expansion on those I only knew a little about. It‘s definitely made me want to read more on Rosa Parks. 3y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I could go either way, but I know many people read at different rates than me…and I just don‘t want anyone to feel like they have to miss out on one or the other. 3y
alisiakae @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Thanks for posting about #1619GroupRead! I‘ll be putting out some more jnfo soon (we‘ll, maybe after Thanksgiving), but I plan on including some additional resources to go along with each essay that people can check out if they want. 3y
tenar Oh, interesting proposition! I was worried about joining 1619 because of overcommitment, so it would be helpful for me personally if we focused on it, but I‘m also okay with missing a little of either group if there are #SheSaid members who aren‘t interested in 1619 and want to keep going. 3y
tenar Things I didn‘t learn about in school #7867: the Senate of the United States in the early 1900s put up for a vote to alter the Constitution in a way that would trade black men‘s suffrage for white women‘s suffrage (bonus: with one of the major motivations being fear of black women‘s suffrage). That whole episode really threw me for a loop. 3y
ravenlee For the first note - I‘m planning to participate in the #1619GroupRead and am not sure how that would affect my #SheSaid participation, so I‘m ok with pausing the latter to pursue the former. The next few books aren‘t available through my library, so I need to source them elsewhere, and that gives me more time to do so. But I can also pop in and out if y‘all want to continue as planned. 3y
ravenlee This section really had me confused a lot - so many names to keep track of, and the timeline kept pushing forward and then pulling back to go along another line, so events and people got multiple mentions and it was confusing. Also, in discussing the conflict between the Black leaders and the white suffragists, I often couldn‘t tell who was whom (I must admit I‘m not really up on my suffragist who‘s who, which contributed to the confusion). 3y
ravenlee The discussion of Senator Vardaman and the mixed reaction to the threat he posed reminded me so much of the beginning of Trump‘s presidency. A lot of people blew him off (I honestly thought/hoped he‘s realize he didn‘t have infinite power and get bored; I never realized he‘d just dismantle all the safeguards), but there were those who recognized how bad things were about to get. 3y
MallenNC I am planning to do the 1619 reading too and it didn‘t really seem like too much for me to do both. However I read a lot, and understand others may not, so I‘m fine if others prefer to pause SheSaid. 3y
MallenNC As for Vanguard I am enjoying learning more about people and history that I didn‘t know much about before but I agree the drier, academic style is a little harder for me than narrative nonfiction like The Warmth of Other Suns. Both styles are valuable but the reading experience is definitely different. 3y
MallenNC @tenar I had never heard about that attempt to repeal (or otherwise limit) the 15th amendment either. And the part about Mary Church Terrell and her husband the judge was also new to me. Her saying she suffered more than her husband over the attacks on him reminded me of Michelle Obama‘s experience. 3y
staci.reads I got a late start this month, and I drudged through the first 3 chapters. I'm really struggling with the writing in this one, and it's due back to the library, so I believe I'm going to bail. I can't get into it, and I'm trying to get better about abandoning books I'm not enjoying. There are too many good ones out there to stick with one I don't like, but man, I hate doing it 😔 I'll join back in next month. 3y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @ravenlee I felt the same about Vardaman. Everything stays the same and that‘s why is so bloody systemic. 3y
BarbaraTheBibliophage @staci.reads I considered bailing more than once. Not so sure I loved it in the end. Her writing style just never clicked for me. But now I have a whole new list of Black women I want to read more about! 3y
rjsthumbelina @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Would it be possible for #shesaid to take 2 months to read books instead of one while #1619GroupRead happens? That way the sections would be more manageable. It just feels like that would be a long time to be on hiatus 3y
rjsthumbelina @staci.reads @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BarbaraTheBibliophage I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble with the dry writing! I'm way behind. But I'm determined to finish it bc I'm so interested in the subject matter - we'll see if that works out 🙃 3y
megnews @ravenlee I also found it to be a lot of names and going back & forth in time was hard, especially on audio. I enjoyed the stories told but may not pass a traditional test with dates etc if I was taking it from this. 😂 3y
megnews Another thing I noted throughout the book is the voter suppression even when it was legal to vote. Same old same old today. How people don‘t see through the shenanigans to what the actual purpose is-disenfranchising black people-is beyond me. It‘s willful to me. 3y
vlwelser What is the verdict on the 1619 thing? Are we keeping to the original schedule? I like knowing what the plan is. No pressure. 3y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser Sorry, no verdict yet… I‘m trying to think up a good compromise. I let you know this weekend though. 3y