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The Adventure of the Devil's Foot | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#TheDevilsFoot

Sherlockians~
Fun discussion yesterday! And now only 14 stories to go! 🤩
Next up: “(TAo) The Devil's Foot.“ Discussion will be this coming Saturday, 4/12, and will be led by @cuilin.
Have a lovely week.

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The Adventure of the Devil's Foot | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#TheDevilsFoot

Sherlockians~
Fun discussion yesterday! And now only 14 stories to go! 🤩
Next up: “(TAo) The Devil's Foot.“ Discussion will be this coming Saturday, 4/12, and will be led by @cuilin.
Have a lovely week.
Link to summary/analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PrW9OYbMJ8JSZUGfgOr6hYoaJu4hey20/view?usp=shari...

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The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#LadyCarfax

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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eeclayton I wasn't happy with this ending at all. The lady clearly made a choice and it should have been respected. 6d

CogsOfEncouragement Yeah…Almost like Doyle met his word count and said That‘s it for me! From other stories of how SH has acted, I fully expected him to stick around long enough to make sure she was set up safely somewhere again. This seems out of character to me. 6d

Librarybelle Agreed, @eeclayton . This set off so many alarm bells. 6d

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Cuilin At this point in the cannon I‘ve become accustomed to Sherlock‘s frantic energy in an investigation and then leaving at the end. It‘s not justice or closure he is interested in but the solving of a puzzle. 6d

AnneCecilie I agree @eeclayton and @Librarybelle 6d

eeclayton @Cuilin That's a great point. 6d

dabbe @eeclayton @CogsOfEncouragement @Librarybelle @Cuilin @AnneCecilie ... all excellent points. The frustrating thing is that we only know Green's side of the story of his and L. Carfax's relationship. We never get to hear a peep from her, and we leave her in a drugged state with her STALKER! 😱 This is beyond brutal for Holmes, but I agree, @Cuilin, his only interest is the puzzle itself. Once it's solved, time to move on. Cold machine indeed. 6d

CogsOfEncouragement @Cuilin @dabbe I always think of The Adventure of the Copper Breeches, about the governess who could find no work, so takes a horrible placement…and at the end of everything Watson accuses SH of not caring once the puzzle is solved, but then immediately mentions she found employment as head of a private school with considerable success. ⬇️ 6d

CogsOfEncouragement IMO we are to conclude SH situated her there and took no credit for the doing so. This is for us to be “smarter than Watson” again to know this. I like to think that is how SH behaves. I respect your view on him as well. 6d

Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement that‘s so interesting, he often has information that he does not share with Watson therefore doesn‘t make it on the page then this is absolutely plausible. The question becomes why would Doyle not have his hero shine in this way? 6d

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement Excellent point. In that story, it is highly plausible that Holmes did find a placement for her in BEECHES. In many other stories he shows acts of goodwill as well. IMO, though, not in this one. At all. Perhaps even our hero detective can have a bad hair day or story. 🤣 And my overall view of Holmes is that I am completely #sherlocked and always will be. I adore him, just not in this story. 6d

CogsOfEncouragement @cuilin Do you think the original readers read the stories over and over, waiting for the next? Subscription wide book club? Doyle knew this? He dropped a couple hints about SH doing nice things and let the reader enjoy being in on the secret? Just like his relationship with Mrs. Hudson. I think SH did a BIG thing for her and SH & Hudson have a relationship W doesn‘t quite understand - but the reader can. Maybe? 6d

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement I truly love to think and believe that and it continues to this day! All the Sherlockian clubs around the world prove that. And a lot of them reread the stories (as if they were real) and discuss every minute detail. I'd love to be a wallflower at a meeting of the Baker Street Irregular Society! 🤩 5d

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The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#LadyCarfax

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle I thought Watson did well with the initial tracking! Holmes has more connections, so he would win any “who did it better” contest, but it‘s thanks to Watson that the investigation had progressed. 6d

Cuilin They both ended up in the same place at the same time. Sherlock used his time to get background information, Watson kept on the trail. I think their methods complemented each other. 6d

AnneCecilie I agree with both of you @Librarybelle and @Cuilin 6d

dabbe @Librarybelle @Cuilin @AnneCecilie 🎯🎯🎯 to all your thoughts!
I guess I really had to suspend my disbelief in this one. How, based on Watson's description of Shlessinger and his wife, did Holmes automatically know he was “Holy“ Peters, “one of the most unscrupulous rascals that Australia has ever evolved?“ That seems a bit far-fetched for me. 6d

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The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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eeclayton In the Hound of the Baskervilles, something similar happened, but there I could see the reason behind sending Watson ahead. In this one, however, I don't think we get a satisfactory explanation. Also, Holmes makes these cruel, hurtful comments about W's blunders, which didn't amuse me at all. 6d

Librarybelle It seemed odd to me that Holmes would send Watson off on his own—needed in the city? Oh please! While I didn‘t mind the story, I wonder why Conan Doyle wanted to write this one, in which we get a Watson who is scolded by Holmes and made to feel inferior. 6d

Cuilin I wondered if Sherlock wanted to test and therefore show off a new disguise. It‘s easy to fool strangers but much harder for Sherlock to fool Watson who knows him well. 6d

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CatLass007 I think Holmes‘s treatment of Watson was abominable. I don‘t know why Watson puts up with it. Why does Doyle write Holmes as such an ass?! 6d

AnneCecilie It‘s not the first time Holmes has done it, is it a way to get information even if Watson doesn‘t know what‘s going on? 6d

dabbe @eeclayton 🎯! Watson being the detective allowed Holmes to roam around those moors unnoticed. And Watson was able to help protect Baskerville, too.

And yeah, no satisfactory explanation here at all! And why did Holmes ultimately even show up when all the action at the end is in London? It's like he wanted to show up Watson to his face. He was a real arse in this one. 6d

dabbe @Librarybelle It seems like Doyle was cranky writing it, doesn't it? Maybe he was at his I'm-really-tired-of-writing-about-Sherlock-but-I-need-the-money phase. 🤣 6d

dabbe @Cuilin Ooh, good point! Holmes is quite the dramatist! It seems like a lot to go through (like traveling to France), but Holmes wouldn't mind those minor details in the least. 6d

dabbe @CatLass007 IKR? Maybe he's pissed at Holmes because he's tired of having to create stories about him, but he really needs the money? Or he's mad because the public really only wanted to see stories of Holmes, not fairies or other things. 🧚 6d

dabbe @AnneCecilie Good point! Watson is the innocent who is an excellent chronicler, so perhaps the information he discovers can be useful to Holmes--even though Watson wouldn't be able to interpret it like Holmes could. 6d

AnneCecilie @dabbe Exactly, and it allows Holmes to do some investigation in London 5d

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The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#LadyCarfax

IMHO, this one was a dud. We never even get to know what was really up with the Lady Carfax! And Holmes was the rudest to Watson in this one; he was quite the jerk.

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eeclayton The plot was interesting and it held my attention. But I wasn't amused by Holmes' attitude in this one. 6d

CogsOfEncouragement I figured out the two bodies in the casket. I was on the edge of my seat to see if she was going to be found dead or alive. I thought Watson was being quite bad at the job and then Sherlock told him the same. Though, it almost seemed like Doyle was mad at Watson to write it this way. lol 6d

Librarybelle I didn‘t mind this one. Holmes‘ attitude was a bit off putting and reminded me of a strict adult reprimanding a bad child. 6d

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Cuilin @Librarybelle @eeclayton agreed. Sherlock‘s temperament in this one is off putting. 6d

AnneCecilie I‘m always fooled and it doesn‘t seem to matter that I have read quite a lot of these stories by now. I wish we had gotten to know more about the how 6d

dabbe @eeclayton 🎯! 6d

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement The possible murder part was interesting; I don't recall such an urgency in past stories as in this one. I didn't think Watson did that horribly, considering he doesn't have the criminal encyclopedia that is in Holme's head. And Green was a stalker who could have killed him! Watson goes through all of that only for Sherlock to severely rebuke him. Not happy with SH in this one at all. 6d

dabbe @Librarybelle I keep wondering why SH sent him there anyway and then ended up going there. Watson does him a favor and goes, and gets nothing but shamed by Holmes. #notcool #imho 6d

dabbe @Cuilin 🎯! Just when we think he's showing growth, too! 6d

dabbe @AnneCecilie It bugs me when something is pulled out of the air--like Sherlock knowing about Shlessinger's ear and who he really was. For a detective story to be truly fair, shouldn't the reader have all the clues, too? Like you, though, I just love reading them and having them be solved for me. Most of the time. 🤩 6d

AnneCecilie @dabbe In theory I agree with, but no matter how many clues I get, I never manage to get it right. Sherlock is probably doing some investigating off the page, like Poirot later would do. 5d

dabbe @AnneCecilie We're not always privy to those little gray cells! 🤩 5d

kelli7990 I liked this story. 5d

dabbe @kelli7990 I'm glad you did! 🤩 5d

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My March Storygraph stats - though they don't seem to have the same definitions of genres as I do.

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The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents
#LadyFrancesCarfax
Sherlockians~
We're getting closer and closer to the end of the canon! All 4 novels read, and this is story 42/56!
Next up: “The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax.“ Discussion will be this coming Saturday, 4/5, and will be led by @dabbe.
Have a lovely week.
Link to summary/analysis (spoiler alert):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kmgu_t6jJMdILHLLSaGsumT8hELSxOuQ/view

dabbe TY! 🤩🤩🤩 2w

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The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents
#LadyFrancesCarfax

Sherlockians~
We're getting closer and closer to the end of the canon! All 4 novels read, and this is story 42/56! Next up: “The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax.“ Discussion will be this coming Saturday, 4/5, and will be led by @dabbe.
Have a lovely week. 💙
Link to summary/analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kmgu_t6jJMdILHLLSaGsumT8hELSxOuQ/view?usp=shari...

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kelli7990 Yay! 2w

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The Adventure of the Dying Detective | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Librarybelle We‘ve talked about Holmes‘ growth as a human throughout the canon. I think this shows that under all of the frustrations and somewhat harsh criticisms of Watson, Holmes really cares for him and recognizes him as a friend. 2w

CogsOfEncouragement Oof. I understood at this point SH was faking illness and my heart still hurt for W hearing SH say: only a general practitioner w/very limited experience and mediocre qualifications. W was humble enough to move forward in getting help rather than concern himself with ego. It was a balm to read SH tell W he could only fool him at four yards, etc. and that W is only a bad liar, not a bad doctor. 2w

dabbe I guess what Holmes did to Watson in “The Final Problem“ (letting Watson think he was dead for three years) was much worse than what he did to him (and Mrs. Hudson) here. He took a big chance with both of them in the hopes that Smith would confess to the crime of killing his nephew. But that's the magic of these stories. By now we know SH's relationships with both Watson and Mrs. H are solid, and they actually help him nab the villain. 2w

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