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The Turkish Embassy Letters
The Turkish Embassy Letters | Lady Mary Wortley Montagu
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In 1716, Lady Mary Wortley Montagu's husband Edward Montagu was appointed British ambassador to the Sublime Porte of the Ottoman Empire. Montagu accompanied her husband to Turkey and wrote an extraordinary series of letters that recorded her experiences as a traveller and her impressions of Ottoman culture and society. This Broadview edition includes a broad selection of related historical documents on Turkey, women in the Arab world, Islam, and "Oriental" tales written in Europe.
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The_Penniless_Author
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#wondrouswednesday @eggs

1. Hawaii, Italy, Aruba
2. Hiking or running
3. Tagged
4 That I had the day off and got to go for a hike (see #2) 🚶‍♂️🥾🙂

Eggs Thanks for playing 👏🏻📚🤗 3y
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As you can probably tell from all the quotes I've been posting, I loved this book. Any early-18th century epistolary text documenting a European's impressions of the Ottoman Empire would be interesting in and of itself, but Lady Mary is the real star -observant, intelligent and caustic, an absolute joy to read. Her observations are fair and generally complimentary, and she displays a rare ability to consider another culture on its own terms.

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“I can't forbear saying one word here of the French statues (for I never intend to mention any more of them) with their gilded full-bottomed wigs. If their King had intended to express, in one image, ignorance, ill taste and vanity, his sculptor could have made no other figure to represent the odd mixture of an old beau who had a mind to be a hero, with a bushel of curled hair on his head and a gilt truncheon in his hand.“

The_Penniless_Author She actually rips into French women's dress and makeup soon after this, but I decided I had enough snark for one quote 😄 4y
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"I came in two days from Genoa through fine roads to this place. I have already seen what is showed to strangers in the town, which indeed is not worth a very particular description, and I have not respect enough for the holy handkerchief to speak long it."

Lady Mary, on the Shroud of Turin

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"I am almost of opinion they have a right notion of life; while they consume it in music, gardens, wine and delicate eating, while we are tormenting our brains with some scheme of politics or studying some science to which we can never attain, or if we do, cannot persuade people to set that value upon it we do ourselves...but the good of fame, the folly of praise, hardly purchased, and when obtained, poor recompense for loss of time and health!"

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"In the same animal is not seldom remarked the Greek perfidiousness, the Italian diffidence, the Spanish arrogance, the French loquacity, and all of a sudden he's seized with a fit of English thoughtfulness bordering a little upon dullness, which many of us have inherited from the stupidity of our Saxon progenitors."

-Lady Mary, on the "European mongrels" of Turkey

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"...I assure you 'tis certainly false, though commonly believed in our parts of the world, that Mohammed excludes women from any share in a future happy state. He was too much a gentleman and loved the fair sex too well to use them so barbarously. On the contrary he promises a very fine paradise to Turkish women."

-Lady Mary, on Western misconceptions about women and Islam under Ottoman rule

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“I am also charmed with many points of the Turkish law, to our shame be it spoken, better designed and better executed than ours, particularly the punishment of convicted liars (triumphant criminals in our country, God knows). They are burnt in the forehead with a hot iron, being proved the authors of any notorious falsehood.“

-Lady Mary, on zero-tolerance policing

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“The smallpox, so fatal and so general among us, is here entirely harmless by the invention of engrafting...The old woman comes with a nutshell full of the matter of the best sort of smallpox...and puts into the vein as much venom as can lie upon the head of her needle...The fever lasts two days, seldom three...I am well satisfied of the safety of the experiment, since I intend to try it on my dear little son.“

-Lady Mary, on Turkish vaccinations

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"I happened to bespeak pigeons for my supper, upon which one of my janissaries went immediately to the cadi and ordered him to send in some dozens. The poor man answered that he had already sent about but could get none. My janissary, in the height of his zeal for my service locked him up prisoner in his room...and accordingly came very gravely to me to ask what should be done to him adding...that if I pleased he would bring me his head." ?

The_Penniless_Author Lady Mary, on Adrianople's five-star service 4y
Nute Five-star service at the expense of the attachment of head to body. Server/attendant beware!😂 4y
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"Their whalebone petticoats out-do ours by several yards' circumference and cover some acres of ground. You may easily suppose how much this extraordinary dress sets off and improves the natural ugliness which God Almighty has been pleased to endow them all generally."

"The person is so much lost between headdress and petticoat, they have much occasion to write upon their backs 'this is a woman'..."

Lady Mary, on the women of Vienna and Bohemia

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"...I was desired to observe a crucifix that they assured me had spoke very wisely to the Emperor Leopold. I won't trouble you with a catalogue of the rest of the lumber..."

"The cabinet of jewels did not appear to me so rich as I expected to see it."

"There is a large cabinet full of curiosities of clockwork, only one of which I thought worth observing."

Lady Mary, on Viennese tourist traps

rwmg Wishlisted 4y
The_Penniless_Author @Milara To be fair, it's literally the THIRD talking crucifix she's been shown already during her trip 🤣 4y
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"...I got immediately into bed and slept so well for three hours that I found myself perfectly recovered and have had spirits enough to go and see all that is curious in the town, that is to say, the churches, for there is nothing else worth seeing..."

Nice to see European tour packages haven't changed much in 300 years ?

The_Penniless_Author @Milara It also means her sightseeing was about 300 years less interesting than ours. "This church was built in the late 1600s!" "Great, so like 20 years ago?" 4y
The_Penniless_Author @Milara Well, that was why I specified the late-1600s. But regardless of when it was built, she would still be 300 years closer to the date. "Ancient" sites would seem a lot less anachronistic, more relatable and mundane to a person in 1716. The medieval stuff definitely left Lady Mary cold. She refrained from giving her friend a list of relics she had seen, telling her it was all a bunch of "jaw bones and bits of worm-eaten wood". 4y
The_Penniless_Author @Milara Good point about the "practicality" of people living then. In fact, the one and only thing Lady Mary gushed over from her trip so far was her time passing through several small Dutch cities and the burgeoning middle-class she witnessed there, which was unlike anything she'd seen before. She went on and on about the amount and variety of goods available and the cleanliness of the town centers. 4y
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The_Penniless_Author @Milara Maybe "anachronistic" is too strong a word, but I can say that as a kid I was always impressed by the Episcopal Church my mother dragged me to, and that was only built in the mid-1800s. It's not so much that it was unrelatable or out of place, but it did seem to obviously stand apart from the other buildings in town and hearken back to some previous age (and gave it a leg up over the newer, more utilitarian churches, in my opinion). 4y
The_Penniless_Author @Milara But really I was just having a laugh at how much Lady Mary sounds like a contemporary tourist: "Looked at some churches, not much else. *sigh*" ? 4y
The_Penniless_Author @Milara Me too 🙂 And I'm also thinking now that I'd like to read a decent book or two on the development of romanticism. I've recommended Age of Wonder on here before, which touches on the Romantic Age and the marriage of science and the arts (specifically poetry), but I'm wondering what other, similar books are out there (that thread the needle so well between an academic and a popular work). 4y
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"We were in hopes to reach Cologne. Our horses tired at Stamel, three hours from it, where I was forced to pass the night in my clothes in a room not at all better than a hovel. For though I have my own bed, I had no mind to undress, where the wind came in from a thousand places."

Who knew they had Econo Lodge in 18th-century Europe? ?

The_Penniless_Author @Milara Not yet, but she's still on her way to Turkey. I've been wading pretty casually through this so far. 4y
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#FirstLineFridays @ShyBookOwl

"I flatter myself, dear sister, that I shall give you some pleasure in letting you know that I am safely past the sea, though we had the ill fortune of a storm."

wisherwishinguponastar I like that opener. Are you enjoying the book so far? 4y
The_Penniless_Author @booksellerofyourdiscontent So far yes, but I'm less than a dozen pages in. It's been a busy week! 4y
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Read an abridged version, containing a selection of the Turkish Embassy Letters by Lady Montagu.

The letters offer an interesting depiction of Turkey in the 18th century, though the possible bias of the author (especially regarding race and social class) can be an issue for the authenticity of her portrayal. It is still a must-read for the historical value and the pleasant writing style!