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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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It was good to tick this one off my TBR, though it was more than just a tick-box exercise as I did enjoy it for itself.
The earlier poems are more mystical and esoteric, being prophecies of the gods and gnomic sayings for good conduct, surprisingly abstemious in respect of alcohol, and sadly misogynistic in parts. The later poems deal more with human heroes and dynastic strife. While some of the women here are marriage pawns, many are warriors ⬇️

Bookwomble ... (shield maidens), and they are fierce and forces to be reckoned with in their own right.
One of the roots of Tolkien's legendarium, so another strand of interest there. 4⭐
2mo
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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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"With a hell-bent hand she loosed the dogs;
hurled before the hall doors a flaming brand; wakening the house servants,
the bride made them pay for her brothers.

She gave to the fire all who were in there,
who after the death of Gunnar and Hogni had come from Myrkheim;
the ancient timbers fell, the temples went up in smoke,
the estates of Budli's descendants, shield-maids inside
burnt up, their lives stopped, they sank into the hot fire."

Bookwomble Gudrun takes her ape-shittery up a notch and murders everybody! including herself! 🔥💀🔥 At least she seems to have spared the dogs.
Apologies for the spoilers, but it has been over a thousand years since first publication 🙃
2mo
The_Book_Ninja @Bookwomble I‘m sure the cut off for spoilers is well past a thousand years. Everyone should know who Keyser Söze is by now 2mo
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Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja Probably so, just don't tell me how the Epic of Gilgamesh ends! 🙉 2mo
The_Book_Ninja @Bookwomble Ay! You‘re a well read gentleman, Wombie, I know nothing about the epic of Gilgamesh so, naturally, I went off on a shallow dive. I found this while poking around and found it was interesting, especially in light of our recent use of AI to generate pictures. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/12/books/booksupdate/ai-ancient-tablets-gilgames... 2mo
Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja Not so much well read as old! 😄 The Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest piece of literature to have survived, hence my little joke about spoilers. I can't get past the NYT login, but that looks like a fascinating article. I'll try to find it reported elsewhere 🙂 2mo
The_Book_Ninja @Bookwomble Yes, i sensed the joke and guessed it was an ancient text but I didn‘t know anything about it…The article, in a nut shell, says the tale is 30% unfinished but there‘s tablets spread across museums over the world revealing more of the tale. AI is being used to decipher them 2mo
Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja I found a couple of articles I could read. I like this one, explaining that the sequence alignment algorithms used to reconstruct DNA strands have been adapted to identify and reconstruct fragmentary cuneiform texts. What a fabulous meeting of the most ancient and most modern writing technologies! https://theconversation.com/ai-is-helping-us-read-ancient-mesopotamian-literatur... 2mo
The_Book_Ninja @Bookwomble Those ancient Mesopotamians with their styluses and tablets (edited) 2mo
Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja I love Gilgamesh - he's the most ancient human (historical or fictional) we have a detailed account of, and his concerns are the perennial ones of free will, the adventurous spirit, the quest for knowledge, friendship, mortality, and grief. The story of the universal flood given here predates the biblical account by millennia, and the name of the Babylonian flood survivor, Utnapishtim, when transliterated into Hebrew gives Noah! 2mo
The_Book_Ninja @Bookwomble I guess the bible is just a collection of greatest hits tales, plagiarized and made into a post-ancient self help book. 2mo
Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja There's a lot of relevant thought in it, and other religious texts, as long, I think, that you don't get mired in a single, inflexible perspective - dogma is stultifying. 2mo
The_Book_Ninja @Bookwomble Agreed! Let‘s not wax theological…..on this occasion 🤭 2mo
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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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"The bright-faced woman darted about, bringing drink,
the terrible woman, to the nobles; she brought morsels with the ale
for the pale-faced men, reluctantly; then she told Atli his shame.

'Your own sons' - sharer-out of swords -
hearts, corpse-bloody, you are chewing up with honey;
you are filling your stomach, proud lord, with dead human flesh,
eating it as ale-appetizers and sending it to the high seat."

Bookwomble Wow! And I thought Medea's anger at Jason for infidelity was extreme, but Gudrun's fury towards Atli for killing her brothers takes infanticide to the next level! 2mo
dabbe 😱😱😱 2mo
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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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"I expect a wolf when I see his ears."

A quote about knowing a wrong 'un when you see a wrong 'un from the Lay of Fafnir, a story about how the lust for wealth and power ends in much suffering. It's quite an ancient story; not sure that it has any relevance for the modern age. ?

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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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"Hearing I ask from all the tribes,
greater and lesser, the offspring of Heimdall;
Father of the Slain, you wished me well to declare living beings' ancient stories, those I remember from further back."

- Voluspa (The Seeress's Prophecy)

#FirstLineFridays @ShyBookOwl

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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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"It isn't as good as it's said to be,
ale, for the sons of men;
for the more a man drinks, the less he knows about his own mind.
The forgetfulness-heron it's called
who hovers over ale -drinking;
he steals a man's mind.
That's the best about ale-drinking that afterwards
every man gets his mind back again.
Let no man hold onto the cup, but drink mead in moderation,
let him say what's necessary or be silent;
no man will scold you
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Bookwomble ... because you go off early to bed."

These lines from "Sayings of the High One" confound my stereotyped view of the viking ideal as roistering indulgers in copious amounts of alcohol, though I suppose the High One's admonition was needed because that actually was the case ??
3mo
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Bookwomble
Poetic Edda | Carolyne Larrington
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I've read retellings of these stories since I was a kid, and I read the Prose Edda a few years ago, so feeling it was time to read the Poetic Edda. This Oxford World's Classics edition looks like it has good explanatory notes, but not too extensive for the dilettante reader that I am.
#BookmarkMatching Accidentally, a reasonable colour match to the book with this bookmark showing Nordic artefacts, which I bought from the Jorvic Viking Museum 🔖

TrishB Bookmark appreciation 👏🏻 3mo
Cathythoughts Perfect photo 🩵 3mo
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Burpito
Pickpick

800 pages of Thorgil Thorgilsson pirating around, forming blood feuds, exchanging giant rings and gilded swords, and "discovering" Canada. Did you know Vikings named it Greenland as a marketing tactic? So more Norsemen would want to move to that desolate place and keep them company.

Loved it

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Norse Mythology | Neil Gaiman
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rwmg
Norse Mythology | Neil Gaiman
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A re-telling of some Norse myths. At times I wondered who the target audience was because the language seemed overly simplified so maybe tweens or teens? Ultimately I didn't really care. I still enjoyed it.