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Shakespeare for Every Day of the Year | Allie Esiri

I REALLY didn‘t like Falstaff, so I‘m always thrown a bit when people rave about him. He just comes off as so bloody childish. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Maybe I‘m taking him - or life - too seriously, but I just don‘t like him at all.
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Faibka Another one I haven‘t read 🤦🏻‍♀️ this book is really poking me to get on with reading the plays I‘m still missing! I‘m loving the historical tid bits! 4y

GingerAntics @Faibka I am adoring those parts, yes!!! 💙💙💙 4y

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King Lear (Revised) | William Shakespeare

And now they‘re all dead. Lear has gone from someone we all hate to someone we feel bad for. His downfall and spiral into total madness is complete.
This play is stuffed full of events. I‘m exhausted just thinking about it.
Any finishing thoughts?
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Lcsmcat https://betterlivingthroughbeowulf.com/will-trump-like-lear-take-us-all-down/ Robin Bates, on his blog Better Living Through Beowulf, has several posts comparing Lear and Trump. The link above is to one where the loyal Republicans are Regan and Goneril, and James Comey stands in for Cordelia. It‘s not an exact parallel, but it works. 5y

Graywacke @GingerAntics I also found myself wondering why I suddenly felt so bad for old man. 5y

Graywacke This is a big busy play and I think there are a ton of things to think about in it. I got caught up in some comments in the bibliography section on my edition (Folgers Shakespeare Library). The work summarized is: Susan Snyder “King Lear and the Psychology of Dying.” Shakespeare Quarterly 33 (1982): 449–60. (edited) 5y

Graywacke Quote 1: “Structuring her analysis of the play around the tenets of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross‘s influential Death and Dying (1969), which outlined five stages in the dying process—denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance—Snyder locates naturalistic and symbolic correspondences to these stages in Lear‘s and Gloucester‘s loss of power (“ which is . . . what dying is about”)” 5y

Graywacke Quote 2: ‘ Snyder concludes that “our pleasure in tragedy [may be] owing in part to its power of bringing together what in our psyches simply coexist unrelated, these two reactions of recognition and resistance—bringing them together, not in resolution . . . but in energizing interaction.” ‘ 5y

Graywacke Any thoughts on that? 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke aren‘t those the five stages of grief? I guess I‘d want to see her examples of these five stages within the play to see if I agreed with her. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke I would say yes to her second quote, at least for this play. I may even go as far as to say for most tragedies, yes. I do know at least one tragedy I like that is not for this reason, and quite frankly, I haven‘t read that many tragedies. I‘ve really only read Shakespearean tragedies. 5y

merelybookish @Graywacke I like that second quote too. And it's interesting to think about aging. Our desire to distance and dismiss the aged at the same time they raise deep fears, sadness, and sympathy in us. I enjoyed this last Act which felt a bit less action-packed and made a bit more space for reflection. Although I forgot Cordelia died too...a whole dynasty wiped out...Not sure what the poetic Justice was there. 5y

GingerAntics @merelybookish as a society, we really have to start treating older people better. That seems consistent throughout social classes, into politics; we just don‘t treat our elderly well at all, which is really shameful. 5y

Graywacke @GingerAntics yes - the five stages of grief. 5y

Graywacke @merelybookish interesting parallel, with aging! 5y

Graywacke @GingerAntics regarding the examples, I don‘t have Snyders, but I feel like can come up with my own examples on how Lear acts after he gives away his crown - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. If you buy it, than giving away his a crown was his attempt to accept death - but it didn‘t work. He still had to go through the torment of the emotional cycle near-end mortality - except in his case with tragic consequences. 5y

Graywacke @GingerAntics my own parallel to pattern: denial (acts like he's still king)-anger (well...) - bargaining (for his 100 soldiers)-depression (alone in a storm,insanity)-acceptance (calls himself a fool to Cordellia). 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke from that stand point, I can see the argument for the grief cycle in this play. Okay. I‘m game for this. 5y

batsy @Graywacke That's an interesting reading & I'm going to try to seek out that Snyder essay. Freud in his essay The Theme of the Three Caskets refers a lot to myth and fairytale and the symbol of the third unique daughter, and also makes a case about how muteness reflects a kind of death when it shows up in the unconscious mind (in dreams). So for Freud Cordelia is Death and Lear's journey is about death, which ties with that essay you mention. 5y

GingerAntics @batsy that‘s interesting. I wonder when the Snyder essay was written and if it cites the Freud essay? I never really put much stock in Freud. He was a bit of a quack freak. 5y

batsy @GingerAntics I have some issues with Freud myself but I do find him an interesting thinker in some aspects. That's probably why I prefer him as literary critic; I don't know if he's done much of it, but when he sticks to texts I like how he digs around for the subconscious themes at work (like myths, folklore, fairy tales). 5y

Graywacke @batsy interesting (and interesting about Freud as a literary critic). His idea puts a twist the warm Cordellia/Lear scene in act 4. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke @batsy yes, his interpretation really changes those class scene between Lear and Cordelia. 5y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics quack freak! Exactly although I enjoy reading the antics what does that say about me 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🙄 5y

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie hey, sometimes people‘s antics are just really entertaining!!! 5y

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King Lear (Revised) | William Shakespeare

So, Lear continues to go mad, the legit Ed is getting played big time by the illegit Ed, none of Lear‘s daughters want to put up with him, his messenger is napping in the stocks, and the greatest Shakespearean insult of all time appears! Did I miss anything? Another act that feels almost like an entire play.
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Lcsmcat Kent is my favorite in this act. He sets himself up so that he can expose Regan‘s behavior. 5y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat wait, he did that on purpose? 5y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat I‘m high on cold meds right now, so admittedly, I could be a little lost, but I‘m with @Graywacke, I didn‘t think that was on purpose. 5y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke @GingerAntics He jumps straight to (pretty intense) insults, for no action of Oswald‘s, and seems, then hails Lear and immediately implicates Regan and Cornwall. I don‘t think he knew they‘d put him in the stocks, but he was certainly poking the bear. 5y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat It makes sense. I thought he has gone bonkers. Quite a wonderful cascade of insults he pours out. 5y

jewright I love your naming of legit Ed and illigit Ed! My favorite part was definitely when the sisters were arguing about who had to keep their father. They were so fake earlier. 5y

merelybookish I enjoyed Kent's paragraph long attack on Oswald! And I know Regan and Goneril are cruel but Lear is such a clueless big baby. I kind of laughed as they reduced the number of troops he could keep from 50 to 25 to none. He just does not get what happens when you give your kingdom away! 5y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke @merelybookish Those insults are amazing! I always wish I could call some to mind to use on telemarketers or politicians who interrupt dinner time. 😀 5y

TheBookHippie From now on legit and non legit as I‘m reading along!!! I swear the timing of this book! This section seemed like an entire play! The insults!!!! Ha. Saving some ! I hope you feel better @GingerAntics ! 5y

TheBookHippie @jewright this reminded me of my brother and I and our parents 🤪😱🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ you take them no you.. 5y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat 🤣😂🤣 you can‘t really keep a list of really good insults next to the phone anymore. Phones just aren‘t stationary anymore. The landline needs to come back for this purpose. 🤣😂🤣 5y

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie @jewright Too many people with Ed(ward/mond/win) in this time period. They all must have knicknames. lol (edited) 5y

GingerAntics @merelybookish Lear does seem to be really clueless in the most remarkable ways. At least it‘s amusing. 🤣😂🤣 “I want to give up my kingdom, but I don‘t want to give up all the perks.” 🤦🏼‍♀️ 5y

merelybookish @GingerAntics We call my son Ned. People are often surprised that it's a nickname for Edward. But that's why. It's like how Peggy is a nickname Margaret. 5y

merelybookish @GingerAntics He keeps trying to Lord those gifts over his daughters but it doesn't work. You can't expect people to owe you for what you gave freely. 5y

CoffeeNBooks I was astounded at just how quickly Regan and Goneril refused to have Lear stay with them! I wonder if he's really figured out yet that their words about how much they loved him were just that- just words. I don't think he understands the situation yet. 5y

TheBookHippie @CoffeeNBooks clueless I think you‘re right he doesn‘t understand. 5y

batsy I agree, each act feels like a full play in this one! I don't like Goneril or Regan but I'm surprised at how much I dislike Lear, too. When I first read it as an undergrad I was like "poor old man driven mad" but with the wisdom of old age (lol) I now see that power can cause his warped perception. I'm also so impressed with how devious Edmund can be—he pre-empts suspicion about his own motivations so well! I should take notes, lmao 5y

batsy @Lcsmcat @Graywacke Poking the bear! I like that; yes, I felt that from the beginning with Kent. He's so interesting! When he unleashed a torrent of insults at Oswald in Scene 2 I thought I was reading Lear's part, for a moment. There's a strange kind of doubling/mimicry in most of the speeches by different characters, I feel. I'm not sure what Shakespeare was on when he wrote it but I'm all for it 😆 5y

GingerAntics @merelybookish so true! You gave it of your own free will. You don‘t get to hold that over people‘s heads. Although, many people do try. 5y

GingerAntics @merelybookish what do they think Ned is a nickname for? I thought that‘s as common knowledge like Jim/James and Bob/Robert. 5y

GingerAntics @batsy so much happens in every act that it‘s almost hard to keep everything together. I‘m kind of hoping I can find a video online of this play. I think I‘m going to need it to put it all together. 5y

merelybookish @batsy I also have little patience for Lear. I suspect he wasnt a great dad. And I also find Edmund quite compelling! 5y

Graywacke I was not in the best state of mind while reading this act. Travel weariness. Kent was going crazy, Lear wasn‘t picking up the cues, R & G are so verbally passive in their assault, it‘s almost like a polite destruction. I was exhausted on finishing ... WAIT!! @batsy @merelybookish Some of you _like_ Edmund? He‘s atrocious! You‘re scaring me. 😑😶🥺...a little 5y

Graywacke @merelybookish Lear - definitely a clueless big baby. The last one in the room to realize what‘s happening. He even rationalizes Regan at first. But, the weirdest for me was, he curses out Goneril, then suddenly turns around and says, actually I‘ll take the 50. Not even a sorry... 5y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat will be thinking about Kent (and class. He can curse out Oswald, because of his station and O can‘t really do anything back - well, directly.) 5y

Graywacke @GingerAntics hope you feel better 5y

Graywacke Side note: the sons-in-law and Oswald all seem very adept at biding their time. They don‘t have to anything except let Lear and Kent put nooses around their own necks, then they can gently kick out the chair. Found it interesting. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke this act can cause weariness, so starting off there is not helpful. I‘ll agree with that. Just so much seems to be happening. I‘d agree with the “polite destruction” assessment on the daughters as well. It was hard to tell if they were being outright mean or if they were just at the end of their ropes with him. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke interesting thoughts on the sons-in-law. They‘re staying out of it for now, but I doubt they‘re planning to just stand idly by and take in the entertainment forever. 5y

batsy @Graywacke Great point about Kent and class. I thought he was Lear for a moment when he was cussing our Oswald precisely because the mode of insult seemed "Trumpian" (it's what I scribbled in the margins...) Yet while Kent is doing that he's disguised as a servant (in order to serve Lear again). 5y

batsy @merelybookish Yes, reading through modern eyes I can't help but think that Lear is a narcissist (requirements for kingship? 😝) so it must have been tough having him as Dad. @Graywacke Nothing so appealing as a really crafty villain! 😳🙈 5y

GingerAntics @batsy “Trumpian” is a great way to describe Lear. That‘s a great word! 5y

merelybookish @Graywacke @batsy I also find my interest in Edmund surprising because I know in previous reads I loathed him. But this time I sort of have sympathy for the villians because I have little tolerance for the old men, "powers that be." I also might be projecting some of my feeling for Jon Snow (the bastard in Game of Thrones) on to him. ? 5y

merelybookish @Lcsmcat I hope you pull it off someday and then report their reaction of us! 😀 5y

batsy @merelybookish This is where I confess that I haven't watched GoT! (I think I should...catch up 😂) But I feel you! The older I get the more I'm like, every power structure already creates its own villains by the very nature of how power operates. I can see where Edmund is coming from (unlike, say, a villain like Iago). 5y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat I second @batsy‘s motion! 5y

GingerAntics @batsy I haven‘t seen/read GoT either, but I have no ambition to rectify that situation. 🤣😂🤣 I‘ve got to say my attraction to Illegit Ed is far more personal, but I like him, too. 5y

Graywacke @merelybookish clueless on GoT and Jon Snow, appreciate that dad and legit Ed are not brilliant cats...but illegit Ed is not ok. 😐 Just saying. (To me, he‘s a sociopath.) 5y

Graywacke @batsy Kent and Lear Trumpian? Maybe. Definitely have entitlement issues. Mel Brookes might point out it‘s not easy no longer being the king. 🙂 5y

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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

Sorry guys. I almost forgot to post this. With the holiday weekend here in the states, my poor mind is all over the place. How did everyone enjoy Falstaff‘s comeuppance?! It was nice to finally see him get his just rewards, personally. lol
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes, I enjoyed the ending! Suddenly it reminded me of Bottom in

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TheBookHippie @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes! I agree! 5y

TheBookHippie I‘ve loved this read!!! Flagstaff oh my word. It‘s like justice after all. 🤣 5y

DGRachel I enjoyed how several of the men got a little karmic retribution, and I appreciated how Anne was able to wed the man she wanted and the Pages accepted it in the end. 5y

CoffeeNBooks I loved Anne's trickery and how she fooled so many in order to marry who she wanted to marry. My favorite line was when Falstaff said "I do begin to perceive that I am made an ass." ??? 5y

jewright @CoffeeNBooks I loved that too. 5y

GingerAntics @DGRachel @CoffeeNBooks it did seem like the women had a lot of power and agency in this one. I really enjoyed it. 5y

GingerAntics @Riveted_Reader_Melissa he does come off as rather bottom like in the end, doesn‘t he? lol 5y

Graywacke Glad so many people loved this. I had trouble reading it, and enjoying. But I would like to see a performance. I thought the games around Anne let Falstaff off the hook a bit, and undermined, for better or worse, Ms. Page. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke it did seem a bit like there were two parallel plays as opposed to one cohesive play. 5y

Graywacke @GingerAntics well, there‘s that. But also Ms. Page (and Mr. Page) were silly regarding Anne. And, after all the animosity, Anne‘s marriage washes it away and Falstaff is invited to dinner! So, her plot does really impact the rest of the play. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke when you put it that way, it actually seems like a really improbably ending. Hm. I may have to revise my review. 5y

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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

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I read this play back in 2015 before I‘d read the Henry IV plays. Falstaff didn‘t really stand out to me so I didn‘t remember him. When I started this reread I wasn‘t too excited about more of Falstaff‘s hijinks (maybe he reminds me too much of the boys-playing-men my age that I seem to always run into). In the end, I was so happy that Falstaff got what was coming to him for three plays now. It‘s about bloody time. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

GingerAntics I enjoyed this play immensely because Falstaff finally got his comeuppance. Falstaff groupies won‘t like this play much, but if he annoyed you to know end in the Henry IV plays, you will greatly enjoy this play. #shakespearereadalong #Shakespeare #MerryWivesofWindsor 5y

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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

I have this sort of OCD thing with odd numbers, so I quite enjoyed this bit. In fact, this is probably the only thing Falstaff has ever said that I liked in the least.
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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

I‘m not going to lie. I rather enjoyed Falstaff dressing up as a woman and then getting beat up.
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Lcsmcat I haven‘t watched this one yet, but reading it makes it seem like the most slapstick of the comedies. 5y

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Rachbb3 I'm rather enjoying it now. It would be fun to watch this one on the stage. 5y

jewright I love that the husband unpacks all the laundry. The husbands just don‘t give the wives any credit for being honest or clever. 5y

TheBookHippie @Rachbb3 oh I agree!!! It would be fun to watch! 5y

TheBookHippie Flagstaff 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I love how many times we get stories of him. I too quite pleased! Ha. This read is a lot of fun. Phew. 5y

TheBookHippie The picture ...👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 5y

CoffeeNBooks This play continues to be funny as Falstaff keeps falling for the antics! This would definitely be a fun play to watch. 5y

batsy I found that the idea of a man beating up an older woman and that being slapstick comedy quite disturbing, tbh! 5y

GingerAntics @batsy I‘m not sure that‘s meant to be slapstick. I‘m not sure any of this play is meant to be slapstick. Also, this was a period when it was completely acceptable and even encouraged that men should beat women, especially those that didn‘t do what society wanted of them. I don‘t think it was ever seen as slapstick. I think Falstaff getting beaten is meant to be his comeuppance. 5y

GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks he just keeps walking into these situations. I find it amusing that he just keeps going back. If he had any intelligence, you‘d think he‘d work out that he‘s getting played. 5y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat @Rachbb3 @TheBookHippie I saw a free online production. I haven‘t watched it yet, but I stumbled upon it when I was looking for an audiobook/audio play of this one. I agree this is one of those plays it would absolutely wonderful to see performed. 5y

GingerAntics @jewright that‘s men for ya!!! Especially in this time period. 5y

Graywacke Finally caught up. Admittedly it‘s mildly amusing in text, and would be dependent on the performance. Intrigued by some of the references, like to Faust (apparently referencing Marlowe). Also, interesting cycle. We‘re told what will happen to Falstaff, watch it happen, then we‘re told what happened. Then repeat. 5y

Graywacke Another note. Interesting how Falstaff, while silly, remains verbally adept, squashing Simple, working over the Host, and, earlier, giving “Brook” (Broom) a good story about the washing. Seems he‘s the one most in tune with Shakespeare himself. I mean, they speak the same language, in the same intelligent depth. (edited) 5y

Graywacke Final note on Brook/Broom: my intro says the Brook family was descended from Oldcastle (Falstaff‘s real-world character, sort of). Hence, Shakespeare may have changed the name to Brook to avoid offending this family twice. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke I can definitely see this play being played far too seriously, at which point the amusement and fun of this play would no longer exist. I think it would have to be a production that didn‘t take itself or the text too seriously. That‘s a very valid point. I agree, this play does have some wonderful references to other writers. The Brook vs Broom info is interesting and certainly makes sense. 5y

merelybookish I'm back to feeling like there are too many characters and not being sure who is who and what is what. I expect it's easier to follow on stage. I do enjoy the plotting of the merry wives. 5y

GingerAntics @merelybookish there are a lot of people in this play. Apparently there were so many people and it was so confusing, the LibraVox version switched who ran off with the boy in green and who ran off with the boy in white between telling them which “Anne” to run off with (they got that right) and when they came back to complain they had a boy. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Then again, this LibraVox Play has other issues as well. 5y

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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

Oh I can‘t wait for the final revenge on Falstaff!!!
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SharonAlger Gotta love some Shakespeare! 5y

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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

It seems she‘s wrapped up the play pretty nicely with this little rhyme.
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Merry Wives of Windsor | William Shakespeare

Falstaff finds himself in a laundry basket (I have a lovely mental image of him in a hamper, personally) to great comic effect, then whines about it to Page/Broom (well in my written edition it‘s Broom, in the audio version it‘s something else, oddly).
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GingerAntics What does your edition use as Ford‘s “code name”? 5y

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Lcsmcat Mine uses Brook as his alias. 5y

CoffeeNBooks Mine uses Brook as his alias, also. This was another interesting act, and I'm looking forward to reading on to see what happens next! 5y

Lcsmcat I just can‘t believe Falstaff is so stupid that he keeps falling for the same trick. 5y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat right? He must really drink a lot. I suppose if he‘s completely toasted he doesn‘t remember? 🤷🏼‍♀️ lol It is amusing to watch, though, 5y

GingerAntics @CoffeeNBooks @Lcsmcat I think my audiobook uses Brook as well. It‘s just the difference of one letter, but I wonder what made my editors go with the M instead of the K? It‘ll be interesting to see if my edition is the only one with the M or not. 5y

jewright Did anyone else wonder about the size and weight of the laundry that Falstaff hid in the laundry basket? This was a fun act though. 5y

GingerAntics @jewright I did sort of in passing, but then amusement overshadowed it until you mentioned it. That‘s certainly a valid point. I have to say, this is one of two parts of this play that we have a ton of photos and art work of. All of it includes a rather large laundry basket, like the size of a laundry basket if a law was passed that everyone household must have only one, that would be found in a home with a baby and a few older children to boot. 5y

Graywacke Mine uses Brook and includes an explanation but I kind of skimmed over it. 😁 Something about how original text says Broom to avoid offending a family with the name of Brook (like Falstaff for Oldcastle) The text seems to play off the Ford/Brook meaning, so it appears to be a late awkward edit. So most editions go “back” to Brook. 5y

GingerAntics @Graywacke oh that explains that, then. Okay, so mine just went with what Shakes originally did. 5y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke I was thinking that a ford and a brook were more related than a ford and a broom, so it made sense to me. But I get how you have to appease the powerful. 5y

Lcsmcat @jewright Right! And they go on about how fat he is too. Even a slim man would be heavier than laundry. 5y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat @jewright it does seem a wonder they actually got him out in that basket and didn‘t get caught, unless the servants that carried it out were in on the prank. It seems they would have to be. 5y

merelybookish I'm enjoying this play and laughed out loud when Caius said "I shall make-a the turd." ? I also liked Anne's line about preferring to be bowled to death by turnips (than marry Slender). 5y

merelybookish Hey @GingerAntics you haven't been tagging me. Can you add me back to your list? 😃 5y

GingerAntics @merelybookish I know why. I usually tag you in the original post. I also don‘t have @readinginthedark on the regular list, but I‘m not sure if she‘s reading this one or not. I thought she was. Not sure, though. I knew I was forgetting something when I was posting. lol 5y

Rachbb3 Mine has Ford's alias as Brook. I really like this Act. Falstaff in the dirty laundry. Lol. I was wondering about that basket too. Wouldn't it be usually heavy? But it was still funny. 5y

GingerAntics @Rachbb3 Falstaff as dirty laundry 🧺 💙💙💙 5y

batsy @merelybookish I loved that line 😂 5y

batsy There was a line where Page mentions that Fenton keeps company with "the wild Prince and Poins" and I was just a little too excited to have that throwback reference to Henry IV since we've read it as a group ? Also loved Falstaff's "think of that, Master Brooke!" monologue as he described his trials in the laundry basket to Ford aka Brooke ... which for some reason made me think of Mr Toad in The Wind in the Willows ? 5y

GingerAntics @batsy I do love the little references to Henry IV. The argument of if this goes between parts 1 and 2 of after 2 is still up for debate. I‘m still not sure which I think it is. 5y

GingerAntics @batsy but if it‘s talking about “the wild prince” shouldn‘t that be between? By then end of part 2 he‘s king and he‘s not so wild anymore. I think between is my vote. 5y

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