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Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

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All right, I‘m officially calling it quits. I don‘t have the bandwidth for this book, I never want to pick it up, and I‘m not getting out of it what I‘d hoped to (and what I get out of Jean Shinoda Bolen‘s books, really). So, for the second time, this one has defeated me.

kspenmoll I stopped reading it long ago. 8h

ImperfectCJ @kspenmoll Me, too. 7h

ravenlee @kspenmoll I‘m calling it now, but I haven‘t actually touched it in a couple months. I tried! I really did. 7h

Chrissyreadit do you want me to remove you all from tag list? @ravenlee @kspenmoll @ImperfectCJ 6h

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GingerAntics

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

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OH HERE WE GO!!! Anytime someone writes about sacred sexuality, they always get weird with it. I‘m either laughing or cringing, and sitting here thinking… yeah no. I‘m already getting ‘yeah no‘ vibes from this book, so this is just going to be… 🤣😂🤦🏻‍♀️… bloodily brilliant. I think I‘m going to have to take a minute before diving into this chapter… at least until I stop laughing about the title of the chapter.

GingerAntics #ClarissaPinkolaEstes #WomenWhoRunWithTheWolves @Chrissyreadit @CaroPi, @Cuilin, @TheBookHippie, @Deblovestoread, @zezeki, @BookwormAHN, @PathfinderNicole, @ravenlee, @dabbe, @ElizaMarie, @ImperfectCJ, @nanuska_153, @nosufoxes, @lil1inblue 1w

TheBookHippie I‘m so behind -hopefully catch up this week. I loved parts of 1,2,3 hated 4, and 5 made me roll my eyes -so on to 6 etc this week… 1w

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I have no idea where we‘re actually supposed to be. I guess I‘m just trying to finish before the new year. 1w

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TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I lost track 🤣 1w

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I think everyone has. 1w

dabbe I haven't even started Ch. 3 yet. 🤦🏼‍♀️ 1w

Cuilin @TheBookHippie yeah I find my eyes rolling too 🙄 1w

ElizaMarie I am still on chapter 2 - totally got behind 1w

Chrissyreadit I am on the meandering path and will post chapters 7 and 8 soon I hope. This is really a jump in and out where you are buddy read- chaotic good energy just like me. 1w

Chrissyreadit Also @GingerAntics My perspective as a women who grew up in the 70‘s and 80‘s is to recognize that when she wrote this there would have still been overarching patriarchal views that influenced her attempts to empower women through a jungian lens. I see some of the problematic in the work personally and recognize her growth journey was far from complete too. I‘m grateful to live during a time when woke is both a four letter word loud and proud) and 1w

Chrissyreadit action!!! ( @Cuilin too) this is too say the problems are real and this would be an interesting grad project to annotate and update, but also i hope a way we can explore our own perspectives safely aside from the content and in reference to the context. Does that make sense? (edited) 1w

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit I did a lot of that last night, before even reading this chapter. I like it better under that idea as opposed to under the idea that it‘s groundbreaking nature has held up for most people (it probably has for quiverfull and pentecostal crowd). 1w

GingerAntics @Cuilin there is a lot to roll our eyes at here, I feel. lol 1w

Cuilin @Chrissyreadit I‘m here for the chaotic energy 💜 1w

Cuilin @Chrissyreadit @GingerAntics agreed this ripe for an update. The time is right considering all the red pilling at the moment. (edited) 1w

GingerAntics @Cuilin absolutely! 1w

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit totally here for the chaotic energy! It‘s definitely my vibe! lol 1w

nanuska_153 @dabbe same! 😅 1w

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PaperbackPirate

Myths and Legends of Hawaii | W D Westervelt, William D Westervelt

I went to Maui Friends of the Library in Kīhei yesterday and came away with some fun stuff! They had tons of lovely Hawaiiana and I had to keep reminding myself how much space is left in my suitcase!
2 books, 2 cds (yes, I still listen to cds 👵🏻), and a set of cards made by a Maui artist named Shanti Rowley! +1 free bookmark
Very friendly staff as well. 🌺📚 Mahalo!

AnnCrystal 👏🏼🤩👍🏼 📚🎶💌💝💝💝...I'm a total CD/DVD fan 😉👍🏼💝. 2w

SamAnne Lovely! 2w

dabbe Glad you're having a fabulous time! 🩵❄️🤍 2w

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PaperbackPirate Yes to the dvds too! @AnnCrystal 🙌😂📀💿💙💙 2w

PaperbackPirate Thank you @SamAnne ! 🌺 2w

PaperbackPirate Thank you @dabbe ! ☀️🌈💙 2w

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Chrissyreadit

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

I really need someone to teach me how to cook, how to like cooking, and how to store food. I‘m not thriving because health becomes overwhelming and if I could just get this accomplished I feel like i could reduce the amount of drowning I am doing.

CaroPi, DebinHawaii, Cuilin, AmyG, kspenmoll, TheBookHippie, Thatbooknerd, Suet624, Deblovestoread, zezeki, BookwormAHN, PathfinderNicole, GingerAntics, ravenlee, CBee, dabbe, ElizaMarie, ImperfectCJ, nanuska_153, ncsufoxes, lil1inblue

Ruthiella YouTube is great for this. I‘m also a poor cook but watching tutorials online has been helpful. 4w

GingerAntics Madam President Kamala Harris? 4w

Suet624 I‘m with you. 4w

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Chrissyreadit @GingerAntics i love that ❤️ 4w

Chrissyreadit @Ruthiella I bought a video class on cooking three or more years ago- I have to figure out what my block around cooking is. 4w

mcctrish I guess I‘d start with what is your favourite food? If you look at a menu what jumps out at you? Then I‘d look for foodie people on IG, or TikTok if that‘s your jam, who make food like it and see if you can do it too 4w

Tamra I echo watching home cooks (not professionals) cooking on YouTube for inspiration and ideas. The professionals make everything seem pretty & perfect and that‘s just not real life. At least in my house. 😉 (edited) 4w

dabbe I'm so with you on this. I love watching food videos and the Food Network, but I absolutely hate to cook. Hate. It. Weird, huh? 🤣 4w

ravenlee I started following Liam Layton recently on Facebook (he‘s @theplantslant on other social media, which is beyond my ken), and I find a lot of inspiration from his videos. Not a how-to, step-by-step guide, but I‘ve been surprised how helpful it can be. 4w

ravenlee I also liked this book, though I haven‘t implemented much of its advice.

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SamAnne I love Deborah Madison‘s vegetarian cooking for everyone. Great even if you aren‘t vegetarian (I‘m not but veggie forward). Just super simple recipes. Still a go to for me 20 plus years later. (edited) 4w

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Chrissyreadit

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

I constantly try to fit in in WV. My son and I just had a several hours long conversation about masking- something I‘ve done purposefully since High School (for senior celebrity i was class ditz) Sometimes it is to reduce loneliness and sometimes it is for ease- but now I feel myself slipping in and out of the masks because it feels necessary and appropriate in the situation. Sometimes life-ing is just hard!

GingerAntics Yes. It was an utter failure. 4w

TheBookHippie No. However. That too creates a whole other set of issues. 4w

GingerAntics Can I switch to @TheBookHippie ‘s answer? 4w

BookwormAHN Also yes and it sucked. For my senior year of high school little witchy me made friends with this girl who was really sweet but she and her friends (who were also pretty nice) were extremely religious Baptists. And to get along with them I had to play good little Christian girl. I know it was my choice but I about drove myself crazy 🤦🏼‍♀️ 4w

ravenlee I mostly don‘t try very hard, but I do kind of…selectively mask? Depending on my setting, I dial down certain aspects of my personality. The person I am with the homeschool moms is slightly different than with the dance moms, and pretty different still from the me who is a working musician. I don‘t try to be someone who will be loved and accepted by everyone, but I guess I do try to be…acceptable? in a given situation. 4w

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Chrissyreadit

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

I really appreciate the opportunity in this book to recognize me. I am a pretty messy, emotional, curious and caring person. I can be judgy at times (my shadow side) and do strive to be compassionate. I‘m also frustrated with myself for not being smarter, more organized and less chaotic.

GingerAntics I think my authentic self is me without masking. Letting myself stim when I need to. Letting myself move away from bright lights and loud noises when I need to. It‘s just me making space for those needs and taking care of those needs in ways that work within the situation (or moving out of the situation if those small modifications aren‘t being honoured or allowed). 4w

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Chrissyreadit

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

Hi friends! As you can tell I am not someone who is consistent with timelines and due dates. My combination of Chronic Epstein Barr (2 week flare i think i‘m at end of) and ADHD (I really struggle with planning ahead) mean I will be getting posts out but not on a consistent timeline. Please feel free to post at anytime whenever you choose- and wherever you are in the book.

Chrissyreadit I think i still wrestle with guilt if I am not putting my energy into mothering others. I am working on the concept of self care- but i apply it to myself as a drill sergeant instead of as a mother. I really need to think about how and what mothering myself could be. 4w

GingerAntics This is a hard one for me. I don‘t understand the idea of mothering yourself. Mothering means taking care of someone and when you‘re doing the taking care of, there are only very limited ways you can be the recipient of that. Literally, kids have to be taught self care. Maybe it‘s just self care. I don‘t know. The math doesn‘t math for me on this. Maybe it‘s just me. 4w

TheBookHippie @Chrissyreadit @GingerAntics I can‘t use the word mother/mom without my skin crawling but I do remind myself and even get reminded by MR BH -“what would your Grandma say, she would say take the break eat the cookie, drink the tea, snuggle in the blanket… the world can wait.” I use that every morning -I slow start mornings&eat a good breakfast -because that‘s what she‘d tell me to do. Make food share it, bake bread it helps she would say. ⬇️ 4w

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TheBookHippie ⬆️ not exactly self care but it‘s what works for me. If nothing else use -Christine loves me she wants me to eat well rest well take care of me. ♥️ it‘s hard I know. 4w

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 🧡🧡🧡 your grandmother is so awesome! I totally get having a negative response to “mother.” Mine isn‘t entirely negative, which almost makes it more confusing. 4w

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics my very good friend who has passed on through the veil use to tell me to just think of Love as an entity or being and use that in place of mother. Love wants you to be you, take care of you because it‘s love. 4w

Chrissyreadit @GingerAntics I feel like i need to explore the archetype of mother and mothering vs the verb. I‘m wrestling with the patriarchal view compared to what a matriarchal tribal view would be. @TheBookHippie too. 4w

TheBookHippie @Chrissyreadit I‘ve been researching Matriarchal in religion and how it was killed by the patriarchy … 😵‍💫😭 4w

TheBookHippie @Chrissyreadit report back if you find interesting things. I do think it needs to be explored. 4w

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit @TheBookHippie I knew this group was going to be perfect for reading When God was a Woman!

When God was a Woman

AnnCrystal 💝💝💝 Hopefully you're at the ending point of the flare-up 💝💝💝. 4w

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics ♥️ 4w

Chrissyreadit @GingerAntics it‘s such a good book! 4w

dabbe Your timelines are perfect for me as I am way behind. I learn so much just from reading these posts! Thank you all for your insight about yourselves and what it means to be a woman; they're so thoughtful and helpful. And @Chrissyreadit, hope you're feeling better soon! ♥️🍁🤎 4w

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit I wasn‘t sure I was going to like it and then I noticed I was like 75% done. So I didn‘t read it at all for several days to make it last. I should have just finished it. lol 4w

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Chrissyreadit

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

I think about how we all have our own perspectives and often struggle to see a big picture or accept other perspectives as valid. I would love to be able to feel grounded more often with clearer understanding of situations.

AmyG Same, probably, for all of us. Just takes more work, more awareness and being present. And listening fully to others. (edited) 2mo

TheBookHippie I think we all struggle to think it‘s valid -so I switched to this is valid for them. Unless hateful- I don‘t generally care… I think it‘s very important to not dismiss lived experience- especially from someone marginalised. 2mo

TheBookHippie I generally feel grounded. Especially in chaos -so I‘m doing fairly better than most in this current regime. Also being in social justice a long time helps. Peace within with chaos outside is the way to live. 2mo

Cuilin I really embrace other people‘s opinions, I think having children who are very much of their generation has led me to explore and grow. I love learning I love hearing what other people have to say. For example, I am not a Taylor Swift fan, but I‘ve enjoyed watching people break down the new album and the lyrics both those who hated it and those who love it I find it fascinating. (edited) 2mo

ravenlee I like the idea that the fiery skull shows what is behind the persona. It burns away the façade and allows us to see who someone truly is. I‘d like to think sometimes it‘s for the better, but generally not. 2mo

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Chrissyreadit

Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype | Clarissa Pinkola Est�s Phd

We often have “a feeling” but do not know how to respond. Have you ever questioned your intuition? I know that my intuition is often right but sometimes i ignore it because it is “inconvenient “.

AmyG I have been working on listening to my intuition more. How many times, in hindsight, have I realized I should have been listening to myself. But sometimes intuition is a fleeting thought proven correct all along. For me, it‘s trying to be aware of those. 2mo

TheBookHippie Anytime I have not trusted my intuition or put it aside to avoid conflict- I have paid dearly. I don‘t do that anymore. Using No. As a complete sentence has helped me immensely. 2mo

Cuilin @TheBookHippie Yes no is a complete sentence. Definitely works. I also like to use the pause. I literally say nothing but just keep looking, slightly quizzical. It makes people very uncomfortable, and they start filling in the gap themselves. Yeah, always go with your intuition. 2mo

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TheBookHippie @Cuilin oh I‘m going to use that. Thank you. ♥️ 2mo

Kerrbearlib @TheBookHippie same! 2mo

Kerrbearlib I didn‘t used to listen to my intuition because I was taught not to trust it. I‘ve since realized society brainwashes people, especially women, to not trust our intuition. I think this quote from Controlling People sums it up perfectly: “many people have learned to distrust their own intuition and everyone else's, too. It was not so long ago that those who listened to their intuition were called witches and warlocks.” I trust my intuition now.

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ravenlee I feel like this could have a whole separate discussion about menopause/pre-menopause. As a “woman of a certain age,” there‘s a lot of question as to whether any of this is physical or mental/emotional. 2mo

Chrissyreadit @Kerrbearlib Yes!!! 2mo

Chrissyreadit @ravenlee We can‘t win either- because everything is our fault. I was gaslit for almost a decade and it was perimenopause and menopause- combined with EDS it‘s all excruciating- 2mo

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